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Old 09-03-2010, 08:44 PM
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Does it matter in this discussion?

The bottom line here is that his actions are helping to ensure that qualified Veterans have every opportunity to COMPETE for the jobs that would be available anyway.
What actions did Obama do? What sort of jobs? Where is the money coming from?

Creating government jobs is the worst thing anyone can do and it only gives a false sense of recovery. Government jobs are paid for by taxes. The government doesn't

If they were really fixing the economy there would be more private sector jobs and not ready to shovel jobs
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He's not creating bogus jobs-- he's cutting the red tape so that Veterans can compete for these jobs that would be advertised anyway.
Compete with laid off census workers.
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He's not creating bogus jobs-- he's cutting the red tape so that Veterans can compete for these jobs that would be advertised anyway.
What jobs???? Government jobs? Again taxes, inflation

BTW our men and women fighting in Afghan and Iraq, are not counted in the unemployment figures. What needs to happen to fix our economy is to create more jobs in the private sector, not just shovel jobs which aren't jobs for just anyone
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They have always had that. Compete for oilfield jobs? Commercial fishing?
These good vets can snag a job in 7 days.
He has cut the red tape involved for Veterans-- a very endearing show of appreciation for Veterans!

While on the subject, the new G.I. Bill, which was also designed by a Democrat, is awesome too! It was signed on Bush's watch, but I beleive that there were some in his Administration that may have tried to block parts of it-- I don't remember for sure.
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We need the economy fixed, created more government jobs isn't gonna do that. We need less government, more private sector
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Are many right? They all tried to blame GW for ALL of it, of course Frank and his retarded cohorts would blame GW when they were just as much to blame for what happened with Fannie May and Freddie Mac. Those idiots are either clueless or dishonest or both
Chasing Goldman Sachs by Suzanne McGee Just finished her new book. She lays more of the bubble last year on CDO;s, collaterilized debt obligations, derivitives trading than on sub prime loans. Mark to market rules and few other issues caused the shorts in the market.
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What jobs???? Government jobs? Again taxes, inflation

BTW our men and women fighting in Afghan and Iraq, are not counted in the unemployment figures. What needs to happen to fix our economy is to create more jobs in the private sector, not just shovel jobs which aren't jobs for just anyone
There is a natural turn over anywhere you have jobs.

The jobs we're talking about are jobs that already existed.

It's something that he could do, an act of endearment even, to help our Veterans in a very immediate fashion.


As discussed earlier, there is so much involved in creating new jobs in th eprivate sector. No one is saying that should not happen. In fact, the new G.I. Bill will help even more Veterans become more qualified for those positions when they do appear-- a G. I. Bill designed by a Democrat.

I am saying that the President has done a lot to help Veterans in this time of economic trouble.

As a Veteran who has a Federal position, who won that positon under the "old system" I appreciate the radical change he has made in regards to ensuring that Veterans COMPETE and WIN Federal positions-- jobs that existed before and will continue to exist, whether worked by a civilian or Veteran.
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Town of less than 2,000.
He says 10,000 dead. Totally wiped out.

Actual dead 11 or 12.
Why does Obama make stuff up?
He was speaking "Evangelistically"
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We need the economy fixed, created more government jobs isn't gonna do that. We need less government, more private sector
Again, I am not talking about the President creating Government jobs for Veterans.
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Again, I am not talking about the President creating Government jobs for Veterans.
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He has streamlined the process for qualified Vets to apply for government positions-- eliminating the KSA's requirement and the bureaucracy surrounding that bad policy.
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