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Old 03-12-2010, 09:28 PM
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Prax watched Evan's Ark.. Lol
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say that this literally happened anyway, so why should we insist that it did? Our insistence serves no purpose and actually harms the faith of those who may be turning to Bible for helpful answers in this modern age.
I wonder...anyone now how many events in the bible end with "and it literally happened just like dat!"
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Prax watched Evan's Ark.. Lol
no, whats that?
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no, whats that?
A movie... Noah's Ark scenario... modern day. The event was localized. It was not global...
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A movie... Noah's Ark scenario... modern day. The event was localized. It was not global...
Ah...hey did you see 2012?
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Ah...hey did you see 2012?
Yes, bootleg dvd. Waste of time. The stupid calendar didn't get five minutes of airtime. End of the movie, everyone on arks. Steel arks. Did anyone catch that the kids name was Noah? lol
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Yes, bootleg dvd. Waste of time. The stupid calendar didn't get five minutes of airtime. End of the movie, everyone on arks. Steel arks. Did anyone catch that the kids name was Noah? lol
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Did anyone notice the moral to the story? God shut the ark and everyone died....humanity opened the ark and let a few more in.
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What if the flood current was more of a rising than a flowing? Remember were not talking about a river over flowing

What if the raft had a keel?

What if the raft was covered?

A flood would be currents of water but not necessarily waves you see on an ocean, would it?
The whole "sea" (whole earth actually) must be taken into account. The variations in air pressure on one part of the globe will have impacts on others. This isn't just a "filling up your bathtub scenario" unless you've thrown a couple of active toddlers into the tub as well.

Also, your rising scenario ignores the scouring of rock that many Young Earth Creationists want to attribute to the "Flood of Noah." (See the Channeled Scablands for example and even the Grand Canyon).

These same folks want to have had the continents "separate" at this time. North America isn't going to move over 4,000 miles in a few months very quietly. There will be rough seas. I know you may not want all of their baggage, but it's worth adding here.

The lateral stability necessary to keep the raft from flopping upside down would require displacement such as you would have with a hull and keel design that you've already mentioned. This would also provide some longitudinal rigidity. This is necessary for keeping the whole vessel from snapping in half. Even without propulsion, the vessel will at times be lifted up so that one half of its weight is bearing downward on the keel. This action will be repeated with every wave.

So, we must have a keel that is strong and rigid enough for stresses that are to be equated with a huge hand lifting the vessel by its stern and shaking it up and down.

A wooden keel of over 300 feet in length has never been sufficient for sea keeping. Not ever in the history of man. And, Noah's Ark is described as being 66% longer than that.

A covered deck on a raft would have to be sufficient to shelter its passengers from the waves generated as India and the Himalayas passed underneath at speeds of about 3 or 4 knots. In other words, no shelter would be sufficient short of a rigid steel vessel in orbit at a distance of at least 120 miles from the surface of the flood. (Lower orbits would decay too fast).
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See my first post. I don't think it was global. Floods have currents, not waves. Oceans have waves and even then they are not always big
I don't either but then you have those in the Answers in Genesis crowd who appeal to "flood geology" to provide an answer for virtually every rock formation, no matter how big, high, or deep, you will run across, anywhere on the planet.
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