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03-12-2010, 06:17 PM
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Noah and the Ark
Is the Ark a possible feat?
One Elephant can eat 200 lbs of food per day, and drink 50 gallons of water. Currently there are 3 species of Elephants, which would make a total of 6 on the Ark. To feed all six, for only the 4 month stay on the boat, the total food needed; 72 Tons of food, and 6000 gallons of water.
This does not include the food needed to sustain the six animals once they land on high ground. The earth being covered by water for almost 4 months would devastate the Earths eco system for food.
We also have an exercise problem. In the wild, they can cover up to 50 miles in a single day if food is scarce, but usually travel a few miles every day. But Elephants require exercise or they die prematurely.
We also have the maintenance problem. Animals in captivity require human care. With only 8 on the vessel, this floating Zoo housing millions of species is understaffed. (San Diego Zoo has about 400 Species.)
We also have the "Bathroom" problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoUfIbHo0xA
Besides the Elephants, we have other species on board needing a special "Environment" to keep them alive. Penguins need land, water, and cold temperatures. Hippo's need land and water and warm temperatures. Oh, and don't forget the "Bathroom" problem, and the food problem (Penguins need fish, Hippos need plants, and enough for 4 months of being on the high seas, plus the time of a whole new eco system developing).
We also have a Boat load of meat eaters. Tigers, alligators, Bears, Snakes, Dogs, Wolves, Ferrets, hyenas, mongooses, and so on. These fanged creatures lose their cool when they get hungry!!
And the "Bathroom" problem.
Estimates prove, the Ark could never house the millions of creatures, lacking room, food supply, sanitary conditions, exercise, and man power to care for the amount of life on Noah's Ark. Next time you go to the Zoo, look at the effort required while keeping animals in captivity.
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03-12-2010, 06:43 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
maybe He put them in hibernation mode?
Think about ways it could have happened, instead of going by sight.
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03-12-2010, 06:50 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Originally Posted by NotforSale
Is the Ark a possible feat?
One Elephant can eat 200 lbs of food per day, and drink 50 gallons of water.
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Not if they were in a hibernative state
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Currently there are 3 species of Elephants, which would make a total of 6 on the Ark.
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Currently, does not mean THEN there were three species. This also assumes the flood was global
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To feed all six, for only the 4 month stay on the boat, the total food needed; 72 Tons of food, and 6000 gallons of water.
This does not include the food needed to sustain the six animals once they land on high ground.
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See above
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The earth being covered by water for almost 4 months would devastate the Earths eco system for food.
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Assuming it was global
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We also have an exercise problem. In the wild, they can cover up to 50 miles in a single day if food is scarce, but usually travel a few miles every day. But Elephants require exercise or they die prematurely.
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See previous post above about hypernation
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We also have the maintenance problem. Animals in captivity require human care. With only 8 on the vessel, this floating Zoo housing millions of species is understaffed. (San Diego Zoo has about 400 Species.)
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Again see above
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We also have the "Bathroom" problem.
Besides the Elephants, we have other species on board needing a special "Environment" to keep them alive. Penguins need land, water, and cold temperatures. Hippo's need land and water and warm temperatures. Oh, and don't forget the "Bathroom" problem, and the food problem (Penguins need fish, Hippos need plants, and enough for 4 months of being on the high seas, plus the time of a whole new eco system developing).
We also have a Boat load of meat eaters. Tigers, alligators, Bears, Snakes, Dogs, Wolves, Ferrets, hyenas, mongooses, and so on. These fanged creatures lose their cool when they get hungry!!
And the "Bathroom" problem.
Estimates prove, the Ark could never house the millions of creatures, lacking room, food supply, sanitary conditions, exercise, and man power to care for the amount of life on Noah's Ark. Next time you go to the Zoo, look at the effort required while keeping animals in captivity.
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If there was a flood and it was not global and the animals were hibernating that defuses some of the arguments
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03-12-2010, 07:15 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
Excellent observations.
There would have also been woolly mammoths (making it 4 species). And what about the kangaroos? And wolverines? And other animals indigenous to Australia and surrounding big islands? How did they make it there after the flood was over and all the animals were released?
And the whole concept of every animal hibernating reeks of the "appearance of time" argument used by nearly all young earthers. Even modern bears only hibernate for a couple of months during the coldest Winter months (which is all their body fat they spent the previous year storing will allow) and even then they are not literally asleep the whole time but frequently stirring and stretching their muscles.
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03-12-2010, 07:21 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Excellent observations.
There would have also been woolly mammoths (making it 4 species). And what about the kangaroos? And wolverines? And other animals indigenous to Australia and surrounding big islands? How did they make it there after the flood was over and all the animals were released?
And the whole concept of every animal hibernating reeks of the "appearance of time" argument used by nearly all young earthers. Even modern bears only hibernate for a couple of months during the coldest Winter months (which is all their body fat they spent the previous year storing will allow) and even then they are not literally asleep the whole time but frequently stirring and stretching their muscles.
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Maybe Noah dropped animals off here and there before he stopped on the My Ararat.
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03-12-2010, 07:24 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Originally Posted by Bowas
Maybe Noah dropped animals off here and there before he stopped on the My Ararat.
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Sort of like the stork from the Loony Tunes cartoons dropping the baby kangaroo off in a sack attached to a parachute. Of course you have to feel sorry for the unlucky cat who runs into it thinking it is a giant mouse.... and who's son will never be able to face his friend in troop 12 again.
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03-12-2010, 07:28 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Excellent observations.
There would have also been woolly mammoths (making it 4 species). And what about the kangaroos? And wolverines? And other animals indigenous to Australia and surrounding big islands? How did they make it there after the flood was over and all the animals were released?
And the whole concept of every animal hibernating reeks of the "appearance of time" argument used by nearly all young earthers. Even modern bears only hibernate for a couple of months during the coldest Winter months (which is all their body fat they spent the previous year storing will allow) and even then they are not literally asleep the whole time but frequently stirring and stretching their muscles.
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Your argument assumes a naturalistic approach to bible stories.
The flood is in the bible, not in history books or science journals. It's a biblical account that assumes a Supernatural element. So then why could not God make the animals hibernate
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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03-12-2010, 07:31 PM
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03-12-2010, 07:33 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotforSale
Is the Ark a possible feat?
One Elephant can eat 200 lbs of food per day, and drink 50 gallons of water. Currently there are 3 species of Elephants, which would make a total of 6 on the Ark. To feed all six, for only the 4 month stay on the boat, the total food needed; 72 Tons of food, and 6000 gallons of water.
This does not include the food needed to sustain the six animals once they land on high ground. The earth being covered by water for almost 4 months would devastate the Earths eco system for food.
We also have an exercise problem. In the wild, they can cover up to 50 miles in a single day if food is scarce, but usually travel a few miles every day. But Elephants require exercise or they die prematurely.
We also have the maintenance problem. Animals in captivity require human care. With only 8 on the vessel, this floating Zoo housing millions of species is understaffed. (San Diego Zoo has about 400 Species.)
We also have the "Bathroom" problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoUfIbHo0xA
Besides the Elephants, we have other species on board needing a special "Environment" to keep them alive. Penguins need land, water, and cold temperatures. Hippo's need land and water and warm temperatures. Oh, and don't forget the "Bathroom" problem, and the food problem (Penguins need fish, Hippos need plants, and enough for 4 months of being on the high seas, plus the time of a whole new eco system developing).
We also have a Boat load of meat eaters. Tigers, alligators, Bears, Snakes, Dogs, Wolves, Ferrets, hyenas, mongooses, and so on. These fanged creatures lose their cool when they get hungry!!
And the "Bathroom" problem.
Estimates prove, the Ark could never house the millions of creatures, lacking room, food supply, sanitary conditions, exercise, and man power to care for the amount of life on Noah's Ark. Next time you go to the Zoo, look at the effort required while keeping animals in captivity.
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I've long struggled with this story! Great post!
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03-12-2010, 07:35 PM
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Re: Noah and the Ark
Personally I think he just wanted to post a video of an elephant peeing...weirdo
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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