sunday school?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Please give a format. Im wondering how someone teaches a lesson if they are constantly interrupted with questions about the white horse in Revelation etc

The format is called "a discussion" or "a dialogue". People have been doing it for quite some time, even as a method of instruction and learning.

It is, in fact, the primary method of instruction in most colleges, universities, yeshivas and synagogues, in seminaries (prior to the 20th century at least), the classical Greek schools of philosophy, the Roman schools of rhetoric, medieval schools, etc etc etc.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The format is called "a discussion" or "a dialogue". People have been doing it for quite some time, even as a method of instruction and learning.

It is, in fact, the primary method of instruction in most colleges, universities, yeshivas and synagogues, in seminaries (prior to the 20th century at least), the classical Greek schools of philosophy, the Roman schools of rhetoric, medieval schools, etc etc etc.

Today was about "love" and the Jesus Creed...Mark 12:29-31

And seeking God, sitting at this feet not only to hear his word but so that his love will flow to us and then through us to others.

My pastor read the part called "breakthrough" from this blog:


http://francisfrangipanemessages.blo...-youre-at.html

[thephnxman]

"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his
custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up
for to read."

I would ask those who are versed in the Jewish Law: was it usual for men who were
not rabbis to read the scriptures?

Now, would it be proper (or not) to CORRECT an error of a preaching during his
discourse? WHY/WHY NOT? (It is NOT "speaking in tongues)

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his
custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up
for to read."

I would ask those who are versed in the Jewish Law: was it usual for men who were
not rabbis to read the scriptures?

Now, would it be proper (or not) to CORRECT an error of a preaching during his
discourse? WHY/WHY NOT? (It is NOT "speaking in tongues)

The reader is usually not a rabbi. Every boy at his bar mitzvah gets to read as well. Readers can be any adult male Jew.

As for teaching, as the book of Acts shows, any adult male observant Jew could speak to the congregation upon being recognized by the gabbai or president. Often discussions would ensue as various men would weigh in on what was being said. This custom is continued in the church (1st Cor 12-14) but with the added aspect of Spirit-inspiration being desired and sought as the norm.

Again as seen in Acts, preaching is about proclaiming the gospel... and is often accompanied by apologetical defense of the message in the face of critical questioning.

Giving a speech then retiring the assembly with no chance for questions or dialogue is simply unbiblical and comes from the Roman art of declaiming carried into medieval homiletics of the catholic church... and on into protestant tradition.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Esaias

What exactly is the purpose of "adult sunday school"?

I love softball questions like this one. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.

The purpose of "adult Sunday School" is to have a reason to force people to listen to two lessons / sermons in one Sunday morning!

Then if they dare complain about it the preacher can claim they are not spiritual.

[Esaias]

So anyway...

If the purpose of SS is to teach doctrine, how is it to be done? What is to be taught, how, and when?

[Scott Pitta]

Each teacher has their own style

Student participation varies from week to week. If students are familiar with the lesson, they are more likely to have something to say. New students may be in the dark and have more fundamental questions.

Some times, students come to class with questions and expect the teacher to know the answer. Teachers need to be more interested in their students needs than in teaching a great lesson.

Seating arrangements impact dialogue. So does the age group you are teaching. So does the amount of time you have to teach.

There are lots of factors that impact Christian education. Is the classroom ready for your students ? Is the teacher adequately prepared ? What are the reading skills of your students ? How well does the teachers know his students ?

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So anyway...
If the purpose of SS is to teach doctrine, how is it to be done? What is to be taught, how, and when?

A "teacher" would know.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The reader is usually not a rabbi. Every boy at his bar mitzvah gets to read as well. Readers can be any adult male Jew.
As for teaching, as the book of Acts shows, any adult male observant Jew could speak to the congregation upon being recognized by the gabbai or president. Often discussions would ensue as various men would weigh in on what was being said. This custom is continued in the church (1st Cor 12-14) but with the added aspect of Spirit-inspiration being desired and sought as the norm.
Again as seen in Acts, preaching is about proclaiming the gospel... and is often accompanied by apologetical defense of the message in the face of critical questioning.
Giving a speech then retiring the assembly with no chance for questions or dialogue is simply unbiblical and comes from the Roman art of declaiming carried into medieval homiletics of the catholic church... and on into protestant tradition.

Very well.
Those were my thoughts also, but not knowing the Jews' custom, I will defer
to anyone else whose knowledge of Jewry surpasses mine (which is just about
everyone on this forum).

I believe that any MALE who is an elder may raise his hand to "correct" a possible
error on the part of the "speaker" ( I use speaker because today, many standing behind
the pulpit give oratories in lieu of preaching).

Preaching is [speaking under the anointing]: which can be for imparting the gospel that
saves, or teaching on doctrine.

[Esaias]

Okay but what is a suggested "scope and sequence"? If the goal is to teach the Bible then there ought to be a plan on what gets taught when, right?

The problem is you have approx. 52 classes in a year. Can the Bible be taught in 52 one hour sessions? If the curriculum goes to say 3 years is that not too long?

Should there be multiple classes based on how long in the faith one has been? So that for example a new convert doesn't jump into SS class spending six months going through OT history of the Divided Kingdom and having to wait two more years before getting a chance to start over at the beginning?