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Old 06-22-2014, 10:57 AM
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Re: Islamic Prayers at the Vatican

"You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me."
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:26 PM
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"You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me."
I love the bible so much because aside from we would have no standard of truth. No way of knowing the way of salvation through Jesus death and resurrection. Thank God for His word.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:36 PM
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"yet they testify about Me" is the operative part there. We are inevitably 'taught' Scripture by someone, several someones; filters. Scripture may also become a filter through which Christ is obscured, as strange as that may sound. Seeking differences and exclusions is an alarm to me now.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:19 PM
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"yet they testify about Me" is the operative part there. We are inevitably 'taught' Scripture by someone, several someones; filters. Scripture may also become a filter through which Christ is obscured, as strange as that may sound. Seeking differences and exclusions is an alarm to me now.
Rather than look for similarities or differences simply follow the Bible and in doing so you will follow Jesus. Question if one were to soley read and follow the Bible how many religions besides Christianity would they be encouraged to study and how many so called dieties would they be taught to follow?
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Rather than look for similarities or differences simply follow the Bible and in doing so you will follow Jesus.
If only. I'm finding that refusing to enter, and barring the door abounds, at least among professed Christians. There are some emerging bright spots, however. This all used to depress me, or make me upset--but i see that it is just a Harbinger, and there is nothing new going on. Isaiah talked about us quite succinctly.
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Question if one were to soley read and follow the Bible how many religions besides Christianity would they be encouraged to study and how many so called dieties would they be taught to follow?
You're asking me? Surely this will be different for everyone, don't you think? Personally, i stick to the Bible, and have been led to abandon Western Christianity wholesale; but i don't expect this from most people. I'm finding the most spirituality imparted by models that include the least religion on their face, in general; and i note that Scripture also condemns Established Religion. In many places. Your question about Deity seems disingenuous, wadr, coming from someone, or at least a forum, that can't seem to agree on One. There is only One; although other gods are recognized, obviously.

But what troubles me most about WC is not the death-centric pastors that abound, so much as the narrow-mindedness, even myopia, one might say, at the several parables that indicate that many of the chosen will never read or say the words you hold so dear, Luke. You are a good hearted person, obviously seeking God. Please don't take this personally, but when i come here, i am mostly minded of the axiom, "those who cannot do, teach."

Are you familiar with the below? I've just read it, so am relating to it at the moment; it is the best of several. Google can help. peace to you.

"The Breach. The nation that had long known blessing and security witnesses the failure of its defenses. Its walls of protection are broken through, its national security is breached, and its illusion of invincibility shattered. The days of the Harbingers begin."
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:16 PM
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or at least know that there are other perspectives on the Bible that you have not even had the chance to reject, as they have been withheld from you. There are many serious men of God who have taken the trouble to write them, in English. Look for those who have spent at least a year in a cave, imo.
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