Obama-Christian By Choice - Page 3

coadie · #21 09-29-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

According to his thinking, he views himself a Christian. Who are we to say differently?

Different people have different standards. What he views as being a Christian might be different than what you believe.

Jesus has the final say. Not twisp. Except ye repent, ye shall all liikewise perish.

Do you, Obama or Jesus set the standards?
by their works ye shall know them. Pro abortion people have that heathen spirit. No sanctity of life. No resppect for God's creation.

warrior · #22 09-29-2010, 09:46 AM

The truth is this: Regardless to what Obama says or does, it will never be good enough. Coadie spends his time trying to find fault in Obama. Therefore, I don't waste my time having the conversation. Obama is in office! There is nothing Coadie can do about it.

Get Over It! Even if he is the Chief of Satan, He is still the President of the United States of America. Even if his mama was married to Lucifer himself, Obama is still the President of the United States of America. Even if his wife and daughters are satans hired help and worship him everyday, Obama is still the President of the United States of America.

Twisp · #23 09-29-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

Jesus has the final say. Not twisp. Except ye repent, ye shall all liikewise perish.

Do you, Obama or Jesus set the standards?
by their works ye shall know them. Pro abortion people have that heathen spirit. No sanctity of life. No resppect for God's creation.

Well duh, individual people set their own standards. All the Christian standards in the world don't amount to a hill of beans if someone doesn't believe in them.

coadie · #24 09-29-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

While this kind of rhetoric drives me mad, I don't believe a fair evaluation of what Obama has said would lead one to believe that he understands the Christian faith. He tends to equate Christianity with other religions, He makes statements that equate more with pantheism, (seeing God in everyone)than Christianity, etc.

Flavor of the day. He straddles several belifs to have his political bases covered.

coadie · #25 09-29-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

lol, newflash, people believe differently than you (thank goodness). Not everyone views your way as the only way to be a Christian.

I notice you haven't tried to argue that he said his mom was an atheist anymore? What's the matter, the truth hurts?

I will let his book answer you.

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In his 2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, "I was not raised in a religious household... My mother's own experiences... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known

Inherited skeptism
In herited christian.
What a contradiction.

Maximilian · #26 09-29-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

While this kind of rhetoric drives me mad, I don't believe a fair evaluation of what Obama has said would lead one to believe that he understands the Christian faith. He tends to equate Christianity with other religions, He makes statements that equate more with pantheism, (seeing God in everyone)than Christianity, etc.

So they've accepted heresy. But there are many "Christians" who believe the same thing. So unless we are getting all theological, I can only take his word that he is a follower of Jesus. I'll reserve my report card of how good he's following (feels weird to even say that).

But I agree, there is a sweeping universalist trend among some Christians -- including Obama. He's very worldly-minded and doesn't seem to accept the exclusive claims of Jesus.

Twisp · #27 09-29-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

I will let his book answer you.

Inherited skeptism
In herited christian.
What a contradiction.

Not sure what you are going for here. Is today make-up-wordplay day for you and your unicorns?

coadie · #28 09-29-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

So they've accepted heresy. But there are many "Christians" who believe the same thing. So unless we are getting all theological, I can only take his word that he is a follower of Jesus. I'll reserve my report card of how good he's following (feels weird to even say that).

But I agree, there is a sweeping universalist trend among some Christians -- including Obama. He's very worldly-minded and doesn't seem to accept the exclusive claims of Jesus.

It is very common. Expressions like" i wouldn't worship a god that would punish people with hell".

scotty · #29 09-29-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

According to his thinking, he views himself a Christian. Who are we to say differently?

Different people have different standards. What he views as being a Christian might be different than what you believe.

If his views dont line up with scripture then are we wrong to point that out? I don't see anyone defending LS HMH with your way of thinking here.

coadie · #30 09-29-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scotty

If his views dont line up with scripture then are we wrong to point that out? I don't see anyone defending LS HMH with your way of thinking here.

The highest virtue is tolerance. It is sin to speak against false views in the new post modern universalism. (except evangelicals and fundies) They are still labelled as dangerous.