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Old 04-09-2008, 08:18 AM
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That's precisely why I said, "Anyone with common sense and a brain." Not everyone has common sense, I know that, but most of the time if you are sincere in telling what good things God has done for you, you will catch someone's attention.

What works for one may not work for someone else, is true. So is the fact that the area in which you live is a "contender" You HAVE to trust the Lord to help you in witnessing and and working in outreach.

Just like you can't be taught to sing if you can't, you can't be taught to "win souls." Your talent or your giftings lie elsewhere.

Not trying to be mean or argue, just a little quirk of mine.
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Re: Learn to win souls next month - Houston area

2 baptized last evening

2 more today

and getting ready to go out this evening again.

Tim Downs rocks. If you can join us for the seminar on friday night its at 7:30 and you can get directions from the meeting info page on www.harvestinbaytown.org i built a widget that interfaces with mapquest.
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Pelathais does that occasionally as well. Try to resist the broadbrushing, though, it becomes extremely annoying!
And you just did it!

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Old 04-10-2008, 08:31 PM
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Tim is on this forum, incase you all did not know it. I have seen the effects of his work which were good. But unfortuantely I have heard some negative too. But you can not believe all you hear. I commend what he is doing. He has that fire for seeing the lost saved.

There was a new church plant in Tempe, AZ and he did amazing work there, but not all the people stayed but you can not expect all to stay. That chuch still have over 100 there. I know people in Knoxville, Tn that go to the UPC church there and he did a meeting for them and had a good turn out. His brand of outreach works from what I can tell.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:18 PM
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3 more baptized yesterday (thursday) and getting ready to head out in a bit for more.

No matter anyones philosophy of ministry, the guys a hitter who delivers for the local church.

his website is www.gowinsouls.com and book him, its worthwhile.
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:47 PM
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Tim is on this forum, incase you all did not know it. I have seen the effects of his work which were good. But unfortuantely I have heard some negative too. But you can not believe all you hear. I commend what he is doing. He has that fire for seeing the lost saved.

There was a new church plant in Tempe, AZ and he did amazing work there, but not all the people stayed but you can not expect all to stay. That chuch still have over 100 there. I know people in Knoxville, Tn that go to the UPC church there and he did a meeting for them and had a good turn out. His brand of outreach works from what I can tell.
Want to clarify my post here. The 'negative' I have heard is nothing bad at all. I was very minor and was about giving a sub par altar call one night. Tim, though I do not know him personally is a good guy from what I am told. He do respect all he does and wish that I could do the same as he does. I hope that this post was did not offend or hurt anyones perception of Tim. I would recommend him cause I have seen what his work does. It changes lives!

Tim, personally I would like to apologize for any hurt or inconvience this may have caused. I should have clarified what I 'heard'. But I do want to mention that I do stand by the part of my post where I said, "you can not believe all you hear." I do want to mention that the people that told me this about Tim also said that one nights altar call was the only down point of the whole thing. People DID receive the HG that night as well as others. So please forgive me if the post caused any harm.

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132 First Time Guests and 22 Baptisms with Tim Downs and Mark Grisham today.

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You are going to cause a riot when you tell the blue denim whales they have to smile while they are shopping. Smiling and saying hello are two of the best tools of soul winning. You don't have that, you don't have a snowball's chance in July of winning a soul. The followup is easy. Be friends. Be real. Not EVERY thing has to be about God. My wife and I were mentoring a family for 3 months before we even brought up baptism. We got more than we bargained for. We got the whole family. We were expecting just mom and dad, but the kids wanted baptized as well.

I heard one person say if a visitor doesn't connect with at least six people in your church within six months, they will be out the door. I've seen that proven true time and time again. Get them connected with the right people and they will stay.

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well... I have a 16 week followup system, a new convert training program setup, and i have been training bible study teachers to help out. I understand what some are saying, but I think your guns are pointed in the wrong direction on this thread.
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Check your pulse to see if you are still alive, but I agree with you.

The Bible says when the Holy Ghost is come upon us, we will have power to become witnesses. Too many times witnessing turns into a doctrinal dogma. The best way to witness is to be a friend. One can influence long term change by befriending people instead of pounding a religious dogma in their head.

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I will probably be crucified for this, but this statement "Learn how to win souls" has always irked me a little. YOU have a brain in your head and a mouth. That's all you need. You don't need to be "taught" how to win souls. Anyone with common sense and a brain can win souls. Open your mouth and begin to tell what God has done for you and people that you know and you'll catch someone's attention.

It's not really what we do that counts anyway. We only plant the seed, GOD GIVES THE INCREASE.....HE WATERS the seed.


Go ahead, kill me. I'm ready and waiting.
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You are going to cause a riot when you tell the blue denim whales they have to smile while they are shopping. Smiling and saying hello are two of the best tools of soul winning. You don't have that, you don't have a snowball's chance in July of winning a soul. The followup is easy. Be friends. Be real. Not EVERY thing has to be about God. My wife and I were mentoring a family for 3 months before we even brought up baptism. We got more than we bargained for. We got the whole family. We were expecting just mom and dad, but the kids wanted baptized as well.

I heard one person say if a visitor doesn't connect with at least six people in your church within six months, they will be out the door. I've seen that proven true time and time again. Get them connected with the right people and they will stay.
I couldn't agree with this more!!! Case in point:

I have been taking a Citizen's Academy at the Sheriff's dept. and have never identified myself as Pastor. The Jail administrator and I are friends and I also teach a 2hr class there once a week. Our class last week was a tour of the jail. As we went in, one of the ladies saw my name on the sign in sheet to enter the jail and said that she noticed I was there once that day already. She asked what I did and I told her. Well, they used me as a demonstration to show how to "extract" inmates from a cell when they were uncooperative. I kind of got beat up a little. Cuffs, shackles, restrained in a chair, the whole works. Anyway, this lady talked to me just a little and I was kind to her. She asked where I pastored.

Long story short, she was at church this Sunday. I recognized her as the only person @ NLC that has EVER seen the pastor in cuffs and shackles. We had a great service and she said that she would be back.

We regularly have people visit who our folks have met in the course of their lives just by being Christians. Have we moved so far from that, that we now need a formula for reaching souls, because our Christianity is so weak and watered down.

I think it is a shame that we have to have some special person basically "hired" to get people to come to church. But that's only my opinion!
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