Remitted on the Cross or not?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

also, does remission of sins = being born again?

You can have your sins remitted and go to hell.........

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

You can have your sins remitted and go to hell.........

Do you believe the doctrine of eternal security?

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Hi Adino,Jesus is the word of God,the word says,the word of God was made flesh.If Jesus is the word then the blood is the word.The blood is applied to our sins when we obey the word,that includes water baptism.The word or the blood saves us.

I've heard it all now...

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Do you believe the doctrine of eternal security?

Perseverance of the saints.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Do you believe the doctrine of eternal security?

I think Dave is a 5-point Calvinist correct me if I am wrong Dave? Thus unconditional eternal security is included.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I think Dave is a 5-point Calvinist correct me if I am wrong Dave? Thus unconditional eternal security is included.

Depends what definition one assigns to it.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Depends what definition one assigns to it.

Help me?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Adino since our sins were remitted at Calvary by His blood(and I agree) what further remission does one obtain by faith and repentance? Does the teaching of faith only make man his own savior and declare disbelief in the finished work of Calvary? Two can play at this word game.

Bump for my Lutheran friend Adino.

[mfblume]

Let me put it this way. Since Jesus fulfilled the Law, at what point was the sins of Israel pushed forward? Was it when the lamb was slain? Was it when the blood was placed upon the giver of the sacrifice? Was it when the scape goat was let go? Was it when the blood was offered in the Holies of Holies?


also, does remission of sins = being born again?

I believe Israel's sins were pushed forward when the blood was splattered on the mercyseat.

Remission of sins is not equated with new birth. It allows FOR new birth to occur, though. By actually experiencing Spirit baptism causes new birth to occur. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Also, by the Spirit we are able to cry Abba, Father. I believe this refers to Spirit baptism.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Help me?

I don't believe that a truly regenerated person will remain in their sins and that saved will show evidence of salvation. I don't believe in the thinking that, "I'm saved so I can live the way I want", like many of the baptists do.