Hypocrite screams you lie

[Light]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I agree that Wilson was out of order in the setting he was in. I guess the booing that Bush got was more acceptable. You aren't allowed to yell out, just boo real loud. lol

Lets see now wasn't it one of you right wingers that said you democrats need to stop looking back?? What a joke.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Light

So esther you know for a FACT OB was lying. Please show me the bill that says illegals will be covered.
Sorry one liners don't cut it. Two things happened he didn't READ the bill or he just didn't care as long as he pleased his lobbyist friends.Which is it?

It's another ambiguous loophole that people are uncomfortable with, Light.

Health care bill has curious coverage for illegal immigrants

Immigrants living illegally in the United States could be mandated to have health insurance under the proposed health care reform bill but would be ineligible to receive subsidies to afford such coverage, a report from the Congressional Research Service says.

The report, prepared by the nonpartisan policy research arm of Congress, provides a close reading of the treatment of noncitizens in the House bill on health care reform, HR 3200.

While the report found that federal subsidies to obtain health coverage would be restricted to U.S. citizens and legal residents, it also noted that the bill does not specify a citizenship verification system, something that critics say creates a loophole for undocumented immigrants to receive subsidies anyway.

The report, released Tuesday, "undermines the claims of the president and others that illegal immigrants would not be covered under the House version of the bill," Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, told CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...re.immigrants/

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Light

Lets see now wasn't it one of you right wingers that said you democrats need to stop looking back?? What a joke.

Well, Light, if you are going to point fingers at Wilson, let's see if anyone - ever - participated in kind. Isn't that important? It certainly is.

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by Light

So esther you know for a FACT OB was lying. Please show me the bill that says illegals will be covered.
Sorry one liners don't cut it. Two things happened he didn't READ the bill or he just didn't care as long as he pleased his lobbyist friends.Which is it?

BOTH

[Light]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You are right on both points, Esther. We would have to have a more clear understanding of the bill to see why it was supported. It's always more complicated than it seems on the surface.

What clear understanding? Hospitals wanted the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to pick up the bill that were not being paid by the illegals and Wilson voted yes by all means let the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT pay. If he was so against illegals he would have voted no, no matter what was in the rest of the bill..

[Light]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

It's another ambiguous loophole that people are uncomfortable with, Light.

What if. What if. It might happen. These are not FACTS. Nothing but a smoke screen argument. Show in the bill where OB lied.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Light

What if. What if. It might happen. These are not FACTS. Nothing but a smoke screen argument. Show in the bill where OB lied.

Excuse me, Light, but a wise lawyer NEVER signs an ambiguous anything. Hello!

And, BTW, let me post this quote once again for your attention:

"undermines the claims of the president and others that illegal immigrants would not be covered under the House version of the bill," Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies,

This is by the Center for Immigration Studies, Light.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Light

What clear understanding? Hospitals wanted the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to pick up the bill that were not being paid by the illegals and Wilson voted yes by all means let the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT pay. If he was so against illegals he would have voted no, no matter what was in the rest of the bill..

He has worked in this area and has recently seen the Democrats vote down some current proposals and so I would need more information to understand his thinking on that. I know some have changed their views on immigration reform after finding some of their methods wouldn't work after all. I would need more information. You don't have it here.

[RevDWW]

You lie...perhaps

"Here, the administration also concedes that hospitals would be compensated with public funds for the care of undocumented immigrants."

Seems like illegals would get paid for........just saying.......

Light, it is also hypocritical to point out your opponents apparent hypocrisy, and ignore that of your own side......

[Esther]

From what I heard yesterday on the radio, is that there are so many verisons out there now, it is hard to know what is the most current. The verison that Wilson had showed OB lying.

There is a "possiblity" that it has been revised, but I would have to see it to believe it.