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Old 04-20-2009, 12:41 PM
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so let me get this right.

Merchant Marines cannot carry anything more deadly than a steak knife on the high seas, but Somoli Pirates can run around with rocke propeled grenades and we cannot pick them up and try them because they didnt attack anyone?


good grief.
Merchant Marines carry guns. I knew someone in the MM and they were in the Gulf to work with our Carrier group. He took pics and one of them showed a huge machine gun on his ship.

I don't know why they don't consider these pirates enemy combatants and just blow them out of the water
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would a torpedo be over kill for one of those small skiffs?
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Merchant Marines carry guns. I knew someone in the MM and they were in the Gulf to work with our Carrier group. He took pics and one of them showed a huge machine gun on his ship.

I don't know why they don't consider these pirates enemy combatants and just blow them out of the water
Bro international law states that civilian cargo ships cannot be armed at all. Merchant Marines that are working in concert with the military may have a different set of rules, but these shops like hte Miersk Alabama are completely restricted from having any kind of deadly weapon at all.
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would a torpedo be over kill for one of those small skiffs?
If it was a Photon Torpedo............ Maybe.
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Bro international law states that civilian cargo ships cannot be armed at all. Merchant Marines that are working in concert with the military may have a different set of rules, but these shops like hte Miersk Alabama are completely restricted from having any kind of deadly weapon at all.
I think that might be the case
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During times of war they are essentially drafted
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Re: This is how we handle the pirates

I had a friend in '91 whose name was Kourosh he was in the Iranian Merchant Marine in the eighties & remembers when American warships patrolled the Persian Gulf.
He told me one time when an American Destroyer called out for a small, Iranian gunship to stop & prepare to be boarded, they responded by calling them, "Yankee Imperial pigdogs!
I am cleaning up the language a bit here.
They refused and were told they would be shot at & fired a machine gun burst across thier bow.
They still would not stop & called them "American stinkers" & the American Destroyer fired a burst & took out thier engine so they were dead in the water.

They started yelling, "We surrender, don't shoot!"

Kourosh jumped ship when the Merchant ship he was on made a call in Vancouver & asked for asylum.
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now that would take care of business ferd, a little healthy fear goes a long way toward compliance, dt
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I had a friend in '91 whose name was Kourosh he was in the Iranian Merchant Marine in the eighties & remembers when American warships patrolled the Persian Gulf.
He told me one time when an American Destroyer called out for a small, Iranian gunship to stop & prepare to be boarded, they responded by calling them, "Yankee Imperial pigdogs!
I am cleaning up the language a bit here.
They refused and were told they would be shot at & fired a machine gun burst across thier bow.
They still would not stop & called them "American stinkers" & the American Destroyer fired a burst & took out thier engine so they were dead in the water.

They started yelling, "We surrender, don't shoot!"

Kourosh jumped ship when the Merchant ship he was on made a call in Vancouver & asked for asylum.
sounds like a smart guy ron, lol,dt
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