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Old 08-15-2008, 08:56 PM
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Re: Parents of Murdered gay student blame school

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I'm not attacking you. But it is not the job of the school to raise our kids. One year we had some problems with our son in school and I threatened him with this...

http://www.rma.edu/
I wasn't taking it as an attack, but you don't know the countless times I've been to blame when I'm by myself and always have been in raising my kids. I get no help from their father and never have.

I would love to enroll him in such a program. I'm trying to get him into going into the military, but now that it's more of a reality, he's backing out of it.

I'm not wanting the school to raise my kids, but when I need help from them, it would be nice to receive it.

Being truant from school is something they should be taking action with. I assure you that if I was keeping him from attending, the state officials would be all over me!
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:57 PM
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How old is your son?
17 this past June.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: Parents of Murdered gay student blame school

Oh, and sorry for sounding so snotty. I didn't mean it as it sounded. I'm just jealous of people who have control of their household and kids.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: Parents of Murdered gay student blame school

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I'm glad you are in total control of your household.

I have failed. Please tell me what else I can do to make sure my son goes to school when I have to work.

Perhaps I should make a list of things I've already done:

Taken away the PS2, all games, controllers, and such like for over a year's time, consecutively.
Grounded him from going places.
Taken his phone away (which doesn't work because then I have no way of contacting him).
Not allowed him to speak to friends outside of school and church.
Forced him to do horrible chores.
Grounded him from TV and movies.
Spoken to the school officials on several occasions.
Spoken to his pastor on several occasions.
Spoken to his youth leader on several occasions.
Spoken to his guidance counselor on several occasions.

Now, what else am I supposed to do?
You are doing all you can do ... some people are way to quick to judge. I admire your efforts and the love you obviously have for your child. Keep up the hard work. It will pay off.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: Parents of Murdered gay student blame school

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I'm glad you are in total control of your household.

I have failed. Please tell me what else I can do to make sure my son goes to school when I have to work.

Perhaps I should make a list of things I've already done:

Taken away the PS2, all games, controllers, and such like for over a year's time, consecutively.
Grounded him from going places.
Taken his phone away (which doesn't work because then I have no way of contacting him).
Not allowed him to speak to friends outside of school and church.
Forced him to do horrible chores.
Grounded him from TV and movies.
Spoken to the school officials on several occasions.
Spoken to his pastor on several occasions.
Spoken to his youth leader on several occasions.
Spoken to his guidance counselor on several occasions.

Now, what else am I supposed to do?
Let him join the football team, or some other activity that he would want to do, that would include a requirement that he have good attendance and good grades. My son knows if his grades aren't up to par, and if he starts ditching school, the first thing that is going to happen is that he will be kissing football bye-bye.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: Parents of Murdered gay student blame school

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I'm not attacking you. But it is not the job of the school to raise our kids. One year we had some problems with our son in school and I threatened him with this...

http://www.rma.edu/
Uh, the key word in your post is "we". It's much easier when it's "we".
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:01 PM
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You are doing all you can do ... some people are way to quick to judge. I admire your efforts and the love you obviously have for your child. Keep up the hard work. It will pay off.
Some do judge, but I don't believe that was Baron's intent.

I think I've done a good job. My kids are 14 and 17, yet I never worry about where they are when I'm working, like sneaking out, or going other places when skipping school, having parties in the house, smoking dope, drinking alcohol, or anything else teens are well known for.

In fact, I've not had near the problems out of the two of them combined that my mother had out of me alone. Hope I never do either!

Thanks for your kind words. It's good to hear them.
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17 this past June.
My oldest will be 15 in a few days and I don't give people advice on how to raise their kids. But I do know that it is the parent’s responsibility not the school. I am not a fan of compulsory education, I think if a kid his age doesn't want to go to school he should have vocational training options.

I realize there is no solution in what I am saying. I know there are things I would do differently with my kids if I did it over again, but that ship has sailed.
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Oh, and sorry for sounding so snotty. I didn't mean it as it sounded. I'm just jealous of people who have control of their household and kids.
I didn't take it that way.

Control?

I don't think kids are controlled by the time they are teenagers they are guided, that's the best anyone can do. They have a will of their own and time out doesn't work.
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My oldest will be 15 in a few days and I don't give people advice on how to raise their kids. But I do know that it is the parent’s responsibility not the school. I am not a fan of compulsory education, I think if a kid his age doesn't want to go to school he should have vocational training options.

I realize there is no solution in what I am saying. I know there are things I would do differently with my kids if I did it over again, but that ship has sailed.
I've talked to him about dropping out and getting his GED. He doesn't want to do that.

He's a strange kid. It's not that he doesn't want to go to school. He just feels that if he can make up the work later, why should he bother going? He just doesn't see the importance of attending school when he can do the work at home at his leisure. And the school has allowed him to do this because he's such a charming kid....LOL!

I'd give him zeros until his attendance improved!
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