A Demonic Attack?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I am not sure about all that abstract stuff but I think sometimes to hide personal responsibility they just simply blame stuff on the debbil.

Why not just say, Brother so and so just didn't eat right or take care of himself but now he certainly will!? Does that compromise his leadership and ironclad reputation somehow? Or does it make him human and on the same plane as the hairy unwashed?

Kind of like some blame the government for all their woes.

[Jack Shephard]

I have fought demons for years on certain issues and I have beat them. None of them have made me sick. The only time I have seen where a demon has made someone sick is in a demon infillment. When they are cast out I have seen the person get very sick, but that is about it. Funny though how people draw a straight line from illness to sin and or illness to spiritual warfare and not the hamburgers and fries that RevBuddy was talking about.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I have fought demons for years on certain issues and I have beat them. None of them have made me sick. The only time I have seen where a demon has made someone sick is in a demon infillment. When they are cast out I have seen the person get very sick, but that is about it. Funny though how people draw a straight line from illness to sin and or illness to spiritual warfare and not the hamburgers and fries that RevBuddy was talking about.

Well I don't think all cases are that cut and dried do you?

[Ron]

Demons have, and do attack people physically & spiritually.
However, that being said, if one does not take care of oneself, one can then be playing into thier hand.

I thought that was what discernment was for.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Ron

Demons have, and do attack people physically & spiritually.
However, that being said, if one does not take care of oneself, one can then be playing into thier hand.

I thought that was what discernment was for.

Bingo we have a winner!

Originally Posted by Ron

Demons have, and do attack people physically & spiritually.
However, that being said, if one does not take care of oneself, one can then be playing into thier hand.

I thought that was what discernment was for.

I think the discernment stock took a terrific hit after the Borat escapade, from what was an all time high of priceless, down to very questionable in its use and application.

At any rate, I have to wonder if to call a demonic attack a demonic attack one would have to ask did the demon actually fill the arteries with junk? I think that is giving the little bugger way too much credit.


POMO leapt to a conclusion. Did I say son or son in law? I don't remember, I was just making a point.

Originally Posted by Carpenter

I am not sure about all that abstract stuff but I think sometimes to hide personal responsibility they just simply blame stuff on the debbil.

Why not just say, Brother so and so just didn't eat right or take care of himself but now he certainly will!? Does that compromise his leadership and ironclad reputation somehow? Or does it make him human and on the same plane as the hairy unwashed?

That was my initial thought. I would have rather been told the truth instead of an attempt to get me all riled up to fight the debbil, as you say. I can rile my own self up with my own self's problems.

[rgcraig]

Normal artries

Fried food filled artires

Debbil stuffed arteries!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Dead eye

I think the discernment stock took a terrific hit after the Borat escapade, from what was an all time high of priceless, down to very questionable in its use and application.

At any rate, I have to wonder if to call a demonic attack a demonic attack one would have to ask did the demon actually fill the arteries with junk? I think that is giving the little bugger way too much credit.


POMO leapt to a conclusion. Did I say son or son in law? I don't remember, I was just making a point.

If we were honest, I think we "all" have not had a 100% hit on discernment.

Even I have missed it.

I remember being over men's prayer some years ago and a drunk came into the Church & sat down.

After the service was over, I asked a fellow minister to come with me and pray with this individual.
He refused. Now this brother does not make it a habit of refusing but he is greatly used in the Gifts.

He spoke to me a few minutes later and said that this man has a demon & he is not ready for deliverance.

I missed it!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I was attacked by the demon of sleepiness, this morning. Made me late for work.

Same demon hit my place the other day - power went out and the little 9v back up battery was dead. First time I've over slept since I can remember. I usually get up before the alarm.

Human health is a complex affair, so complex that in primitive times superstition prevailed and demons and devils were probably blamed for more harm than they could even have possibly done. Today we have better means of inspecting ourselves, and our corpses, so we see the pathology of disease and tend to eliminate the devil from taking the blame for a lot of stuff.

Still, human affairs are incredibly complex. Does the carbohydrate addict feed his addiction because of the sin of gluttony or because of an underlying genetic predisposition? Obviously choices in diet are available to most Americans - but how much difference do the alternatives really make? Our bodies are really adapted to a much different fare than what is presented on the tables of even the finest restaurants and homes.

For myself, I almost died from my diet. Not really from too much - though there were times! But my problem was that so much of the American diet includes a refined and concentrated poison that wrecked my immune system. That "poison" was simply wheat flour.

Since the Stone Age humans have been selecting grains that give their beers a better head of foam and that make for daintier cakes and loaves. And now in recent years we have begun to mill those grains down to their essential "goodness" and throw out the husks. This whole process is responsible for concentrating the gluten proteins which cause allergic and intolerance reactions that plague millions.

Could I say that "the devil" made me sick? I, myself obviously share at least some of the blame - but who knew? It took my doctors 40 years to figure it out. Even though the whole thing came down to a complicated set of circumstances involving Western lifestyles interwoven with Neolithic era agricultural practices - and some Krispy Kremes thrown into the mix at some point - "the devil" seems to have also been in the details all along.