Should we teach others to rebel against standards?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We have the Bible.

It's the samething The Bible and Gods words it's the samething!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We have the Bible.

And a Dixie cup.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

And a Dixie cup.

Don't forget the garden hoses. Lol

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Again, just sharing information.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...04&postcount=6

In this post you stated you didn't believe "it" was a salvific issue, then you give your "understanding" of pouring. Again, this is after stating you don't believe this is a salvific issue.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I didn't promote it. I shared the understanding behind the practice.

How do you get that I "promoted" pouring? Again, I only stated the reasoning behind the practice for the sake of discussion. If anything, I advocated "understanding" the reasoning behind the practice.

You posted more than once, in separate threads something which you said wasn't a salvific issue.

"A washing... rather[sic] it is done through immersion, pouring, or sprinkling is a "baptism"."

This was not part of a paragraph or quoted. It appears to be a statement.

Instead of arguing, let's put it out and make it clear:

Do you believe pouring or sprinkling is an acceptable form of baptism? You've said you don't believe it's a salvific issue (I completely, totally 100% disagree).

Please answer directly. No hyperbole. No beating around the bush. Yes or no, is pouring or sprinkling an acceptable form of baptism?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Then you agree with me and Michael that the beard prohibition is an unbiblical tradition of man that is an unnecessary stumbling block for those who would go to these churches who condemn them???

If your beard is keeping you from church, then the issue isn't the Pastor or the church.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Chris you have made it plain you don't want to go to a traditional church anyway? so even if there was a WMB church, you still would not be happy there, right?

Women Men Beards??

[n david]

Originally Posted by houston

Women Men Beards??

[houston]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

This fight is over beards.
The next would be over women wearing men's clothing.
Then, it would move to something else.
As stated before at the beginning of this thread, most of us have never heard a preacher say that beards are a sin.
But, there are things that are lawful for us, but not expedient.
There are some similarities here with the primary ones involved on this thread and the poster strict baptist (at least I think that is what his "name" was).
Meaning that you have closed yourself off so much, that you cannot bear to attend any church, because only you have the "truth".
I have never attended any church where I agreed with 100% of what the pastor said or did.
However, I did trust those pastors to make me a better christian and to help save my children.

Except for Rachel Rose, no one here argues for cross dressing.
You put too much stock in your pastor. Markets crash. You lose everything.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Aquila

See... EB... this is why I like you so freakin' much. After having it out and grinding my gears, you go and do something as truly loving and thoughtful as this. I hate you man, because I just can't hate you.

Dad issues, Chris?

[houston]

Originally Posted by n david

Your laughter is contagious.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

It's the samething The Bible and Gods words it's the samething!

The Greek of "obey them that rule over you" means "to allow one's self to be persuaded by", indicating that obedience is there expected result from sound teaching and instruction.

www.onenesspentecostal.com/peitho.htm

If we take this out of this context, then any arbitrary command would be binding. A pastor could command polkadoted ties, giant red shoes, and red little noses, and we'd be expected to obey.

Teaching, persuasion, and the way of righteousness comes from the Scriptures.