Why the antagonism towards Holiness?

Originally Posted by Rico

What do you mean "a safe route"? There's only one route to Heaven and it's by grace through faith, not by the way we dress or whether we have tv or not.

No...safe route with the discussion...

Originally Posted by jaamez

I have been where Sassy is (and much of my family is still there). It's not that they believe in works-based salvation, as much as a works/behavior-maintained salvation. Most will admit that standards won't help you get saved, but they'll be quick to add that you can't be saved without them.

There's a fine line of distinction there, I know. It's funny how the mind works and how tradition feeds what we think and believe. I respect Sassy for his/her (?) beliefs and her stand. I wonder if he/she can say the same for us.

I have been there for 25 years....
I can say that I respect you for who you are... I really do. I am not pushing my belief on anyone. THis is for me.

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Originally Posted by Sassy

There is difference between judgement and starting a discussion....I have NEVER attacked anyone on this forum for believing differently than I do....but I have learned not to discuss these subjects because it is usually one against many. HolinessPK will learn to pick and choose his battles. BY the way...I am here for cordial conversation....and some these discussions could make me have a sour taste in my mouth. I just don't go there!

Point well taken, Sassy. And I apologize if I've given you a sour taste. Please forgive me. It appears that I have judged you - and I am sorry. I am empassioned about my life as a Christian and often forget that my expressions and vocal inflections do not come across at all on a text forum. I respect your view and enjoy debate.

The point is, though, that while HolinessPK did start a discussion, he also did say many things that were condescending and judgmental. If you re-read some of his postings, and try to be objective (momentarily set aside that part of you that agrees with his views), you'll see that.

God bless!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Sassy

I have been there for 25 years....
I can say that I respect you for who you are... I really do. I am not pushing my belief on anyone. THis is for me.

So you are older than dirt?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Sassy

I have been here for 25 years....I am not going to change you...and your not going to change me.

Sassy,

Don't take the bait...they are trying to get you to lose control so they can say, "See there...yada yada yada." You post with graciousness and kindness, just let them yelp."

Blessings,
Rhoni

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by CC1

So you are older than dirt?

Behave CC1 - you are being a bear the last couple days...something buggin' you?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Sassy,

Don't take the bait...they are trying to get you to lose control so they can say, "See there...yada yada yada." You post with graciousness and kindness, just let them yelp."

Blessings,
Rhoni

Oh please! No one is trying to bait anyone. What kinda nonsense is that?

Originally Posted by jaamez

Point well taken, Sassy. And I apologize if I've given you a sour taste. Please forgive me. It appears that I have judged you - and I am sorry. I am empassioned about my life as a Christian and often forget that my expressions and vocal inflections do not come across at all on a text forum. I respect your view and enjoy debate.

The point is, though, that while HolinessPK did start a discussion, he also did say many things that were condescending and judgmental. If you re-read some of his postings, and try to be objective (momentarily set aside that part of you that agrees with his views), you'll see that.

God bless!

Thank you...

THe sour taste is not with this discussion....it is in general with these hot topics.

I agree...but his approach is different as any.....this is perfect place to learn to say our mind or make a point eloquently. (Nicely, with a Christian attitude)

I have to say that there are some veterans on here that need to set a better example. THey point flaws in others....but they are allowed to use any delivery they want. I guess I don't get it....

Originally Posted by CC1

So you are older than dirt?

I am getting there!! Are you sassing me?

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Sassy,

Don't take the bait...they are trying to get you to lose control so they can say, "See there...yada yada yada." You post with graciousness and kindness, just let them yelp."

Blessings,
Rhoni

Thanks Rhoni....