The REAL Reason CONS have left or rarely post - Page 107

rgcraig · #**1061** 07-26-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mrs

While it's been clearly established that there are 4 Conservatives on the Admin Team, 2 are Owners as well...A thought just struck me as funny...using this post to bounce this one out there...

I keep hearing Jim Yohe being called a Liberal, and yet I don't ever remember any of the UC's/Con's complaining about a forum being ran by a Liberal when FCF was up.

What's the difference now?

He was an UPC licensed minister. Of course, that would cause concern to many cons now.

StillStanding · #**1062** 07-26-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tina

Actually, since we're getting the full TRUTH out here-- I need to say a little more. (Sorry, MOW... I know I said I was going to stay out of this thread-- but I did get Renda's permission since she is head admin, for me to post these comments.)

I am now the person responsible for keeping the finances earned for this forum by the google ads. Boom held this position before the current owners took over.

Just for public record... the funds that paid for this year's hosting were from GOOGLE AD EARNINGS-- and I guess BOOMM must have considered those earnings to be HIS money since he's laying claim to having paid MOST of this year's hostings.

In reality, the earnings from the ads were supposed to be considered the property of the FORUM... not of one person, so ALL of the members can lay claim to paying part of the hosting, since the traffic on the forum is what generated those funds. Without the members, there would have been no ad funds to pay hosting with. There was another owner that paid part of this years hosting fee, but it wasn't BOOMM.

This record is recorded in ONE past thread in the admin area that wasn't "shredded" by BOOMM upon his exit.

I doubt we'll see another post brought here by StMark with an apology from BOOMM for misrepresenting the facts.

Tina, I know it's hard to have to bite your tongue when you have information that others don't have. The admin team has my utmost respect for their measured response.

Nahum · #**1063** 07-26-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

PP! Are you a liberal?

Prax, the truth doesn't matter to them.

Of course I'm not a liberal.

I'm not a liberal by UPC definitions. I am not a liberal by political, social or lifestyle definitions. To over 99% of the world - and Christendom - I would be considered ultraconservative. In the UPC I am quite mainstream.

I have never once spoken against the organization. Ever.

I have spoken against some positions that were up for debate, such as tv. It did not matter that the entire world of Oneness Pentecostalism was discussing the same issues. These men chose to label me liberal, and anti-UPC, which is ludicrous.

They cannot stand the debate, open discussion and questions.

They know it will lead to the erosion of some extra-biblical junk we've held on to for about thirty years.

TRFrance · #**1064** 07-26-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

He was an UPC licensed minister. Of course, that would cause concern to many cons now.

I'm curious. Was Jim Yohe a one stepper?

Rico · #**1065** 07-26-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tina

Actually, since we're getting the full TRUTH out here-- I need to say a little more. (Sorry, MOW... I know I said I was going to stay out of this thread-- but I did get Renda's permission since she is head admin, for me to post these comments.)

I am now the person responsible for keeping the finances earned for this forum by the google ads. Boom held this position before the current owners took over.

Just for public record... the funds that paid for this year's hosting were from GOOGLE AD EARNINGS-- and I guess BOOMM must have considered those earnings to be HIS money since he's laying claim to having paid MOST of this year's hostings.

In reality, the earnings from the ads were supposed to be considered the property of the FORUM... not of one person, so ALL of the members can lay claim to paying part of the hosting, since the traffic on the forum is what generated those funds. Without the members, there would have been no ad funds to pay hosting with. There was another owner that paid part of this years hosting fee, but it wasn't BOOMM.

This record is recorded in ONE past thread in the admin area that wasn't "shredded" by BOOMM upon his exit.

I doubt we'll see another post brought here by StMark with an apology from BOOMM for misrepresenting the facts.

Well, there ya have it, ladies and gentleman. This should wrap up any questions anyone has on the comments made about the forum's financing.

AmazingGrace · #**1066** 07-26-2008, 04:31 PM

Tina I love you my friend and was praying it didnt come to you having to get involved. You all have our support. Tina... is my buddy so now if anyone wants to mess wit her over this info they gonna have to get me in a fight lol.... Mark dont tempt me!!! LOL

Not in the mood to fight today!

Our admin team rules (since I hate the term rocks cuz its old forum talk) LOL

Praxeas · #**1067** 07-26-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Prax, the truth doesn't matter to them.

Of course I'm not a liberal.

I'm not a liberal by UPC definitions. I am not a liberal by political, social or lifestyle definitions. To over 99% of the world - and Christendom - I would be considered ultraconservative. In the UPC I am quite mainstream.

I have never once spoken against the organization. Ever.

I have spoken against some positions that were up for debate, such as tv. It did not matter that the entire world of Oneness Pentecostalism was discussing the same issues. These men chose to label me liberal, and anti-UPC, which is ludicrous.

They cannot stand the debate, open discussion and questions.

They know it will lead to the erosion of some extra-biblical junk we've held on to for about thirty years.

I hear you. This is why I started the thread of what makes someone a Conservative...those that are conservative never really answered. The truth is many that are labeled liberal or moderate are really pretty conservative but if you don't agree with a certain group of conservatives on certain issues or have the same attitude they do on standards then you get labeled a liberal or a charismatic. Seems like passive aggression to be labeled like that

#**1068** 07-26-2008, 05:02 PM

Or that sometimes they feel like they are the lone ranger....and also...they don't want reprucussions to their home church. Watched recently where a link to a message a pastor preached was posted....how is that fair...that pastor is not here to defend his stand.

Praxeas · #**1069** 07-26-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

Or that sometimes they feel like they are the lone ranger....and also...they don't want reprucussions to their home church. Watched recently where a link to a message a pastor preached was posted....how is that fair...that pastor is not here to defend his stand.

why does a pastor need to defend what he said unless he wants to admit what he said was wrong or should have been worded better? Particularly since that same preacher has preached the same message more than once. He does not need to defend himself nor should he, which is why we took action on those that were trying to denigrate them personally and not rather address the message itself. Why should we allow false doctrine to go unchallenged just because that person is not here too? BTW this forum is not closed to them, They are welcome to come here

Whole Hearted · #**1070** 07-26-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Some years ago when the AMF was formed one UPC pastor told me, "They don't think they've had church unless they've beat somebody up." I have no comment at the present time on the accuracy of that statement, but the Cons seem to be more judgmental in their posts than the libs (maybe that's because I would be considered a lib by some here).