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Old 10-29-2010, 11:43 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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So you don't take Scripture "literally"??????? Remember that when you come to Acts 2:38. Hmmmmm.................selectivity will cause many to be lost.
Apparently YOU don't take scripture literally, because you are reading INTO and adding TO the text what isn't there.

James 2 does NOT reference the poor man being evil; it points to his poverty and reminds Christians not to prefer the wealthy man over the poor man. You don't have a leg to stand on unless you add to the Word.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:47 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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Apparently YOU don't take scripture literally, because you are reading INTO and adding TO the text what isn't there.

James 2 does NOT reference the poor man being evil; it points to his poverty and reminds Christians not to prefer the wealthy man over the poor man. You don't have a leg to stand on unless you add to the Word.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:52 AM
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If the word is used elsewhere in such a manner, then the manner is inherently included in the meaning, along w/ the other meanings of shabby, etc.! YOU are the one who apparently needs to do a little homework on etymology [word origins study]. The YOU wanna' school ME on what's not "accurate"?????
You obviously need some schooling.

If a word has multiple meanings and usages, it doesn't use every meaning at once. You have to choose the meaning that best fits the overall context and go with it.

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...Forgot that I said good-bye, so let me try it again & depart from liberal wonderland.....GOOD-BYE.
I consider anyone who adds to scripture so they can shore up what they already believe instead of taking it at face value to be the TRUE liberal. You're not appreciating God's Word for what it has to offer; you're starting out with an agenda and twisting scripture to fit around your personal preferences. In the process, you completely lose credibility.

If you're the face of conservatism, then I'm happy to be on the liberal side of the fence.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:56 AM
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And that's it? A year of back-and-forth, and MB has pressed you to the limit?

Those darn women preachers
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:19 PM
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Conversing won't do 1% of what prayer will do. If we prayed, studied, and conversied all together.. we might come to the same conclusion. This is similar to what early holiness people did such as those in Kansas around 1901 when Agnes Ozman was the first Bible student to receive the HG, speaking with other tongues as the initial evidence. What a revelation it was. How did it come? Studying and praying together. I doubt we will find this absent with early holiness people. These standards didn't come from the blue. If two people in two different religious organizations who never meant come to the same conclusion in prayer and study, that ought to shine a little light to the subject.

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Old 10-29-2010, 04:28 PM
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Apparently YOU don't take scripture literally, because you are reading INTO and adding TO the text what isn't there.

Well, I'll invoke my option of changing my mind & respond to this, since it's tooooo good to pass up: "Not with gold jewelry, pearls, or costly array." Yep....I certainly take that literal ! Sad thing is...you apparently don't!

James 2 does NOT reference the poor man being evil; it points to his poverty and reminds Christians not to prefer the wealthy man over the poor man. You don't have a leg to stand on unless you add to the Word.
So, you justify "wedding bands," then tell ME that I'm ADDING TO THE WORD???????????????????????????????
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:41 PM
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You obviously need some schooling.

.....esp. coming from someone who justifies what's never found in the text [wedding bands], then tells me that I "add to the Word"?????

If a word has multiple meanings and usages, it doesn't use every meaning at once. You have to choose the meaning that best fits the overall context and go with it.

Apparently you need some lessons in review. Let me help ya' out a bit: Pls. show where I ever explicitly said "every meaning" is used "at once":_______________? I never said it's used "at once," I simply pointed out the range of meaning in this term. You're attempting to pass off your theology in the name of grammar...& sorry...ain't fallin' for it here! The word has various meanings, so a strict definition here is not warranted. THAT'S my point....nothing more. Now who's "reading what's not there"??



I consider anyone who adds to scripture so they can shore up what they already believe instead of taking it at face value to be the TRUE liberal.

Funny...you defend wedding bands; I, as well as many, many others I know reject them because Scripture "at face value" says " NOT WITH GOLD JEWELRY......". Yet, I'M the one "shoring up" here?????????????????????????

You're not appreciating God's Word for what it has to offer; you're starting out with an agenda and twisting scripture to fit around your personal preferences. In the process, you completely lose credibility.

Oh, my credibility is just fine where it counts [which doesn't happen to be liberal wonderland, or "AFF"]. I simply believe what the text says in I Tim. 2 & I Ptr. 3 [spare me the ol' clothes argument...already dealt w/ it]. Oughta' try it sometime...it's wonderful!

If you're the face of conservatism, then I'm happy to be on the liberal side of the fence.
Trust me, unless you repent of your worldliness & rejection of God's Word, we don't want you on our "side of the fence".....which is precisely why we don't fellowship your likes!
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:46 PM
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And that's it? A year of back-and-forth, and MB has pressed you to the limit?

Oh yes...i just can't handle the "pressure"

Those darn women preachers
Nice euphemism....and the term "women preachers" is about as applicable as the term "mooing horse".....it's an oxymoronic phrase, since "women preachers" do not exist in the NT [or OT for that matter] church record!

Let me guess, I Tim. 2:11-15 doesn't mean what it says either...right? I guess if you folks can explain away the parts about jewelry, you can also erase the part about women preachers! As for me & my house...think we'll stick w/ the Bible!
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Nice euphemism....and the term "women preachers" is about as applicable as the term "mooing horse".....it's an oxymoronic phrase, since "women preachers" do not exist in the NT [or OT for that matter] church record!

Let me guess, I Tim. 2:11-15 doesn't mean what it says either...right? I guess if you folks can explain away the parts about jewelry, you can also erase the part about women preachers! As for me & my house...think we'll stick w/ the Bible!
We need to understand that the bible is not a book of rules to salvation, as much as it is a guide book that is given to lead us to relationship with God. It is further a lesson book of what can happen when we turn from God.

If you are an example of Christianity I for one do not want anything to do with your brand.
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Trust me, unless you repent of your worldliness & rejection of God's Word, we don't want you on our "side of the fence".....which is precisely why we don't fellowship your likes!


Are you stressed?
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