Hell....just how bad is it?

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its a hyperbole to make a point. But the point is DO NOT COMMIT SIN. If we bow to sin under pressure we have still failed God. Obviously God WOULD rather you cut your hand off than use it to fondle your neighbors wife.

Jesus point is it would be easier NOT to touch the neighbors wife than it would be to cut your hand off.

BUT if thats the only way to overcome you touching your neighbors wife YES he means cut it off.

If all Elders starting teaching this you would see a great reduction in sin.

Amen! Touchy subject right now, I know, but you couldn't get a Muslim to steal a dime from you...etc.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Evidently no ancient New Testament Hebrew writings of the Apostles have survived. The closest would be the Aramaic Peshitta. It was copied into Greek early on and most surving texts are of that nature.

There are modern Hebrew versions today backtranslated from Greek.

I guess some guys are at least attempting a Hebrew/English translation right now..."Messianic Bible," I think it is.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

The destruction of the wicked will be nothing pleasant.

Don't you mean "is?"

"Some believe that the lost roast in a literal lake of fire forevermore. I have trouble with that position, but it is a valid position. Others believe that God can still reconcile the lost in eternity after they have been corrected, many theologians believe that this too is a valid position."

I can't help but connect this-
-but not meaning they are equal-
-to the Scriptural def of "the sea, waters."

"Understand I AM"?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats how lightly people take sin. They actually believe God would rather have them sin than deny themselves.

"...deny themselves...." body mutilation???

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its a hyperbole to make a point. But the point is DO NOT COMMIT SIN. If we bow to sin under pressure we have still failed God. Obviously God WOULD rather you cut your hand off than use it to fondle your neighbors wife.

Jesus point is it would be easier NOT to touch the neighbors wife than it would be to cut your hand off.

BUT if thats the only way to overcome you touching your neighbors wife YES he means cut it off.

If all Elders starting teaching this you would see a great reduction in sin.

Or more one handed people at church

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its a hyperbole to make a point. But the point is DO NOT COMMIT SIN. If we bow to sin under pressure we have still failed God. Obviously God WOULD rather you cut your hand off than use it to fondle your neighbors wife.

Jesus point is it would be easier NOT to touch the neighbors wife than it would be to cut your hand off.

BUT if thats the only way to overcome you touching your neighbors wife YES he means cut it off.

If all Elders starting teaching this you would see a great reduction in sin.

You are speaking the LAW, my friend. Jesus said if you look at a women to lust you have.....

We are called to a higher law, the law of love. The LAW is for the lawless, not for those that are in Christ.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by crakjak

You are speaking the LAW, my friend. Jesus said if you look at a women to lust you have.....

We are called to a higher law, the law of love. The LAW is for the lawless, not for those that are in Christ.

Uhhh Jesus is the one I am quoting. See?

Jesus HATES iniquity!

Jesus LOVES righteousness!

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Heb. 1:9

In the law of LOVE Jesus said "Blessed are the PURE IN HEART for they shall see God". Matt 5:8

Man takes sin lightly as if it is nothing. Gods hates it while loving righteousness. The delusions men accept make sin so comfortable we could lay down beside it and take a nice peaceful nap. Yep nothing at all. No need to wake up from sleep. Sleep on......

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Uhhh Jesus is the one I am quoting. See?

Jesus HATES iniquity!

Jesus LOVES righteousness!

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Heb. 1:9

In the law of LOVE Jesus said "Blessed are the PURE IN HEART for they shall see God". Matt 5:8

Man takes sin lightly as if it is nothing. Gods hates it while loving righteousness. The delusions men accept make sin so comfortable we could lay down beside it and take a nice peaceful nap. Yep nothing at all. No need to wake up from sleep. Sleep on......

You are very sadly mistaken, if you think that is my attitude toward sin, sin is a travesty, man's headstrong resistance to God and righteousness visits a harvest of pain and destruction, upon his head.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

...Man takes sin lightly as if it is nothing. Gods hates it while loving righteousness. The delusions men accept make sin so comfortable we could lay down beside it and take a nice peaceful nap. Yep nothing at all. No need to wake up from sleep. Sleep on......

Amen. We are much more comfortable
with satan than with God. Saved people, too.

It is worth meditating upon that if
God were in the next room from you right now,
say He just suddenly popped in, in all His glory,
you would not be reading this right now,
because you would be running the other way.

[houston]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

It is worth meditating upon that if
God were in the next room from you right now,
say He just suddenly popped in, in all His glory,
you would not be reading this right now,
because you would be running the other way.

I doubt that.