SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

[Ferd]

ugh. that was exhausting.

I deserve a degree or something for having read the whole thread in one day!

[Maximilian]

Pel, maybe ACSI.org?

Hope claims accredition through http://www.cccu.org/ now. They said they were "previously" through WASC.

[Maximilian]

Affirmative: Hope's accredition is now through CCCU. I found them on the page.

Pel, I am positive that AST advertised as "fully accredited" prior to Hope. They used to print out publications with this information. They were very proud of it. I know they previously had an affiliation with Patten University in Oakland, so I'm thinking they did the same piggy-back deal with them.

[Maximilian]

Okay, correction: Hope also claims WASC accredition currently.

Hope International University holds regional accreditation with the Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). The status of accreditation indicates that Hope meets WASC’s Accreditation Standards, demonstrates Core Commitments to Institutional Capacity and Educational Effectiveness, and devotes itself to periodic self-evaluation and ongoing institutional improvement. WASC is one of six regional associations that accredit public and private schools, colleges, and universities in the United States. The Western region covers institutions in California, Hawaii, Guam, and the Pacific Basin. The Association’s member institutions are recognized by the Department of Education, the Veteran’s Administration, and other relevant agencies in the United States.

[Maximilian]

Check them on here: http://www.wascsenior.org/directory/institutions

or here

http://www.wascsenior.org/formerlyaccredited

[ManOfWord]

And people wonder why credibility comes into question! This kind of stuff really ticks me off, because it is about integrity or the lack thereof, really!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I wonder where Dr. Jeff Young, Jr., got his M.D. He wrote the section entitled "Official Medical Report" on this page:

http://www.leestoneking.com/My%20Miracle.htm

He is the son of the pastor Lee describes in that same page. The pastor is from TN (http://www.thespringsupc.com/). If Jeff Jr. is practicing medicine in the United States I am reasonably certain he's legit.

Reading Lee's testimony we can find him crediting the hard work of his care givers along with the "power of God." I don't see anything unreasonable here, but it does sort of come across in a funny way; to me at least. I don't blame the doctor or the EMT or any of the other care givers for that.

My own experience with a cardiologist who literally threw herself on me and wept, crying "it's a miracle" sort of informs my opinion as well. My "miracle" took a few years and lots of hard works and heavy doses of drugs. Yet the change was significant enough that she really wept and called it "a miracle."

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by notofworks

But it's what I do. I have a Phd in psychoanalyzation.

From SEU... it was a bargain basement deal. He only paid $29.95 and only had to watch 2 episodes of Oprah and 3 episodes of Dr. Phil

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

AMAZING!

Okay, I tried the link. I also put in schools I thought for sure would have accredition, and they aren't coming up. Maybe through a different accredition association? But if Hope explicitly says WASC, you'd think that was accurate. They could get in SERIOUS trouble for advertising with WASC if they aren't.

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Okay, correction: Hope also claims WASC accredition currently.

Hope International University holds regional accreditation with the Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). The status of accreditation indicates that Hope meets WASC’s Accreditation Standards, demonstrates Core Commitments to Institutional Capacity and Educational Effectiveness, and devotes itself to periodic self-evaluation and ongoing institutional improvement. WASC is one of six regional associations that accredit public and private schools, colleges, and universities in the United States. The Western region covers institutions in California, Hawaii, Guam, and the Pacific Basin. The Association’s member institutions are recognized by the Department of Education, the Veteran’s Administration, and other relevant agencies in the United States.

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Check them on here: http://www.wascsenior.org/directory/institutions

or here

http://www.wascsenior.org/formerlyaccredited

What's the difference between the two WASC orgs? Or are they the same org with two different websites? Gonna look at that.

Thanks for the tip Max.

Would it be fair to say that the Apostolic School of Theology has it's accreditation "piggy-back" fashion through Hope Int'l - who has their accreditation "piggy-back fashion" through CCCU?

Someone mentioned multilevel marketing... whew!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

He is the son of the pastor Lee describes in that same page. The pastor is from TN (http://www.thespringsupc.com/). If Jeff Jr. is practicing medicine in the United States I am reasonably certain he's legit.

Reading Lee's testimony we can find him crediting the hard work of his care givers along with the "power of God." I don't see anything unreasonable here, but it does sort of come across in a funny way; to me at least. I don't blame the doctor or the EMT or any of the other care givers for that.

. . .

Mostly funny, yeah. But I don't think this is funny:

There were clots and the doctor's advice was, "We have to cut him open immediately to even try to save his life." Pastor Slack and those with him said, 'No, we'll pray." And they prayed... they took another set of pictures of my heart and the clots and blockages had disappeared!!! They did not cut me open.

I hope nobody follows this pastor's example in an emergency situation. If you want to pray, pray in the waiting room and don't interfere.