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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
As does Bill Cosby. And he is a strong advocate for education.
Actually, Cosby earned an Ed.D. from the University of Massachusetts.
In addition, he has been honored the Presidential Medal of Freedom, "Man of the Year" award from Harvard, Bob Hope Humanitarian Award.... I couldn't find anything about honorary degrees for him, though he'd fit the perfect profile for such an honor.
EDIT: Nevermind. A quick Google search yielded these results:
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Virginia Commonwealth University, December 5, 2008.[21]
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Carnegie Mellon University, May 20, 2007; he was also the keynote speaker for the commencement ceremony.[22]
Honorary Doctor of Music degree from Berklee College of Music, May 8, 2004.[23] Cosby was also the host of the school's 60th Anniversary Concert in January 2006.[24]
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Baylor University, September 4, 2003, at the "Spirit Rally" for the Baylor and Central Texas communities.[25]
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Yale University, May 26, 2003.[26]
Cosby received an Honorary Degree in 2003 presented by President William Harjo LoneFight from the Sisseton Wahpeton College on the Lake Traverse Reservation for his contributions to minority education.
Cosby received an Honorary Doctorate from West Chester University of Pennsylvania during the 2003 graduation ceremony.
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Haverford College, May 2002.[27]
Cosby received Honorary Degrees from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute[14] and the University of Cincinnati in 2001.
Cosby received an Honorary Doctorate from Amherst College, May 1999. (Doctor of Humane Letters, honoris causa)
Honorary LL.D. from the University of Pennsylvania, 1990.[28] He also served as the commencement speaker in May 1997.[29]
Now those are some HIGH HONORS! I love Bill Cosby!
The criticisms here have not been aimed at Oneness Pentecostalism but a few individuals. Honestly I find this embarrassing to the Oneness movement and it makes it hard to be taken seriously on any academic or intellectual level to have teachings such as HMH and have individuals sporting PH.ds that are bogus or they did not earn.
Read the evidence...this is looking more and more like a MLM scheme than it is a legit place of Higher Learning. The UPCI needs to do something about this. They should make a by law stipulating that ministers can only claim PH.ds that are legit and they need to investigate what looks like has become a MLM for someone in the UPC where they get a friend to join then start a branch and call themselves professors
So is the consensus that LS, did or did not know that his "degree" was phony? Of course he would know if he ever attended an actual school somewhere, either in England or the U. S. And is it legal for someone to claim to have a degree from somewhere that they don't have? Which would be fraud I guess. I am a little confused on just how he committed fraud if he didn't know the thing was fake, or did not use the title Dr. or PhD.
Having NOT gone to a real University and spend a good part of their life doing dissertations, I could possibly believe that they were naive enough to think the course work, if any, and the 2 page "dissertation" requirement were legit..maybe. But I have a hard time believing anyone is that naive. I haven't been to college in years and I never graduated let alone got a doctorate but I know about the process, especially the final one. You are essentially required to write a book. It gets reviewed by a board at the University and they are not paid to pass you.
It's not an easy task, let alone all the hours spent in classes learning qualifying topics from men that have already done all that. You don't get PHds in Theology for being able to say "I've been preaching the gospel for 30 years" nor for self studying basic topics, taking one test and writing a 2 page paper...you have to rack up hours in a class room.
This kinda reminds me of some of the conspiracy theorists. The so called experts. They write books quoting each other as experts. How do you become an expert? You have a buddy on a radio show quote you. Then you quote him back and he becomes an expert too
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Actually, Cosby earned an Ed.D. from the University of Massachusetts.
In addition, he has been honored the Presidential Medal of Freedom, "Man of the Year" award from Harvard, Bob Hope Humanitarian Award.... I couldn't find anything about honorary degrees for him, though he'd fit the perfect profile for such an honor.
EDIT: Nevermind. A quick Google search yielded these results:
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Virginia Commonwealth University, December 5, 2008.[21]
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Carnegie Mellon University, May 20, 2007; he was also the keynote speaker for the commencement ceremony.[22]
Honorary Doctor of Music degree from Berklee College of Music, May 8, 2004.[23] Cosby was also the host of the school's 60th Anniversary Concert in January 2006.[24]
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Baylor University, September 4, 2003, at the "Spirit Rally" for the Baylor and Central Texas communities.[25]
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Yale University, May 26, 2003.[26]
Cosby received an Honorary Degree in 2003 presented by President William Harjo LoneFight from the Sisseton Wahpeton College on the Lake Traverse Reservation for his contributions to minority education.
Cosby received an Honorary Doctorate from West Chester University of Pennsylvania during the 2003 graduation ceremony.
Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters degree from Haverford College, May 2002.[27]
Cosby received Honorary Degrees from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute[14] and the University of Cincinnati in 2001.
Cosby received an Honorary Doctorate from Amherst College, May 1999. (Doctor of Humane Letters, honoris causa)
Honorary LL.D. from the University of Pennsylvania, 1990.[28] He also served as the commencement speaker in May 1997.[29]
Now those are some HIGH HONORS! I love Bill Cosby!
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Having NOT gone to a real University and spend a good part of their life doing dissertations, I could possibly believe that they were naive enough to think the course work, if any, and the 2 page "dissertation" requirement were legit..maybe. But I have a hard time believing anyone is that naive. I haven't been to college in years and I never graduated let alone got a doctorate but I know about the process, especially the final one. You are essentially required to write a book. It gets reviewed by a board at the University and they are not paid to pass you.
It's not an easy task, let alone all the hours spent in classes learning qualifying topics from men that have already done all that. You don't get PHds in Theology for being able to say "I've been preaching the gospel for 30 years" nor for self studying basic topics, taking one test and writing a 2 page paper...you have to rack up hours in a class room.
This kinda reminds me of some of the conspiracy theorists. The so called experts. They write books quoting each other as experts. How do you become an expert? You have a buddy on a radio show quote you. Then you quote him back and he becomes an expert too
Yeah, I often wonder about the "experts" that testify in court. I think some of them probably do not really qualify as an expert.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Having NOT gone to a real University and spend a good part of their life doing dissertations, I could possibly believe that they were naive enough to think the course work, if any, and the 2 page "dissertation" requirement were legit..maybe. But I have a hard time believing anyone is that naive. I haven't been to college in years and I never graduated let alone got a doctorate but I know about the process, especially the final one. You are essentially required to write a book. It gets reviewed by a board at the University and they are not paid to pass you.
It's not an easy task, let alone all the hours spent in classes learning qualifying topics from men that have already done all that. You don't get PHds in Theology for being able to say "I've been preaching the gospel for 30 years" nor for self studying basic topics, taking one test and writing a 2 page paper...you have to rack up hours in a class room.
This kinda reminds me of some of the conspiracy theorists. The so called experts. They write books quoting each other as experts. How do you become an expert? You have a buddy on a radio show quote you. Then you quote him back and he becomes an expert too
Exactly.
You don't worship with the board that reviews your Ph.D.
Extremely objective. The end-result? It's a high honor and a great accomplishment.
I can't find Apostolic School of Theology nor Hope International.
Hope comes right out on their website claiming accreditation with the WASC. Following the links from Hope's website to the directory at WASC turns up nothing. They do not appear to be accredited with the Western Association any longer, if they were in the past.
Hope also links to the Association for Biblical Higher Education. The ABHE does NOT list them as "Accredited" but as "Programmatic."
"Programmatic Accreditation- Review and recognition of particular programs within an institution that currently holds accreditation with another recognized accrediting body."
BUT... that "other recognized accrediting body" no longer lists Hope International.
Oh, what a wicked web we weave...
If anyone can provide some insight and help for me here, I'd really appreciate it. Just from the websites at the Apostolic School of Theology and Hope International - and following THEIR links to the respective accrediting bodies - These guys ain't accredited.
I can't find Apostolic School of Theology nor Hope International.
Hope comes right out on their website claiming accreditation with the WASC. Following the links from Hope's website to the directory at WASC turns up nothing. They do not appear to be accredited with the Western Association any longer, if they were in the past.
Hope also links to the Association for Biblical Higher Education. The ABHE does NOT list them as "Accredited" but as "Programmatic."
"Programmatic Accreditation- Review and recognition of particular programs within an institution that currently holds accreditation with another recognized accrediting body."
BUT... that "other recognized accrediting body" no longer lists Hope International.
Oh, what a wicked web we weave...
If anyone can provide some insight and help for me here, I'd really appreciate it. Just from the websites at the Apostolic School of Theology and Hope International - and following THEIR links to the respective accrediting bodies - These guys ain't accredited.
AMAZING!
Okay, I tried the link. I also put in schools I thought for sure would have accredition, and they aren't coming up. Maybe through a different accredition association? But if Hope explicitly says WASC, you'd think that was accurate. They could get in SERIOUS trouble for advertising with WASC if they aren't.
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