State of the Church 2010: Have the Lines Blurred?

[deltaguitar]

I am an open minded guy but I couldn't even watch that whole clip. I noticed back when George Bush was elected all of a sudden we didn't hear any sermons on the rapture, anti-christ, end of the world, etc but the whole time Clinton was president it was the end of the world as we know it and America was being led down a path where God would judge us.

I can never understand why the "christians" want to control the county. I have no problem with christians taking a political stand but why do they have so much hysteria and fear pushing their arguments.

The greatest revivals in human history have always come through persecution.

I really don't have much time for the fundamentalist.

Oh, and I am a conservative libertarian.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I am an open minded guy but I couldn't even watch that whole clip. I noticed back when George Bush was elected all of a sudden we didn't hear any sermons on the rapture, anti-christ, end of the world, etc but the whole time Clinton was president it was the end of the world as we know it and America was being led down a path where God would judge us.

I can never understand why the "christians" want to control the county. I have no problem with christians taking a political stand but why do they have so much hysteria and fear pushing their arguments.

The greatest revivals in human history have always come through persecution.

I really don't have much time for the fundamentalist.

Oh, and I am a conservative libertarian.

These apocalyptic politicizing preachers have brought a twisted paradox to the Church .... by picking sides and seemingly telling us how to vote while thinking every action by their political enemies is the end of the world ... the message gets cloudy and confusing ....

You are anxiously anticipating the rapture to happen but at the same time you hoping are your vote will stall it?

[DAII]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Now, blood was thicker than water. A. L. O'Brian preached for Murrell Ewing even when the AMF rift was still relatively fresh.

So District Boards had a tendency to look the other way, depending on who was involved.

Nepotism can be found everywhere.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

But it is a source of ongoing amusement that these guys think the founding fathers were all raving right-wing christian fundamentalists.

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The long-haired wigs and tights on men would have been a point of contention.

[Sweet Pea]

Just to set the record straight: I don't believe that this young man actually "graduated" from CLC, although he did attend for awhile. He was only in Stockton a relatively short time.... I may be mistaken regarding his graduation, (I've been wrong before) but I don't think I am. If he did, in fact, "graduate", it was an AA

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Just to set the record straight: I don't believe that this young man actually "graduated" from CLC, although he did attend for awhile. He was only in Stockton a relatively short time.... I may be mistaken regarding his graduation, (I've been wrong before) but I don't think I am. If he did, in fact, "graduate", it was an AA

You might be right, will check on FB ... or with my wife ... I think they were at CLC together.

He probably sat in Dan Segraves class and realized the truth about the Truth ... like so many who have attended CLC who have moved leftward at least theologically.

[dizzyde]

I can't say anything about what I think...

But I have thoughts.... many, many thoughts.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

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[DAII]

I think a legitimate question with some of these seeker-sensitive churches, relevant, "emerging" churches is whether .... as someone just posted to me via PM ,,, whether they have just adapted a new dress code ... untucked shirt and jeans, the lights, and the rock worship style but are no more seeker sensitive than the AMF .... or changed in their hearts?

Some of these "authentic", relevant coffee house churches are marketing ploys and fashionable, IMO.

How well does this type of highly charged, politicized satirical video parody work on a college campus where apparently the church is at....? Would this fly at a PAW conference?

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by DAII

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