But for that one case in a thousand, you absolutely don't care if her situation is politicized? If it were my wife, I'd have to argue that the choice as to if we'd abort or not should be ours and ours alone. Not yours and definitely not the government's.
So we slaughter thousands of babie for the rare times, none that I heard of, where the mother health may be at risk???
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
I believe that people make life and death decisions every day. I'd much rather the choice to abort be in a parent's hands than an issue of politics and governmental power and manipulation. Maybe it's because I've been in the Army. I think there comes a point where you just have to place that power in people's hands and admonish them to use that power for good and not for evil.
The real answer is preaching the Gospel.
I've been in the Army as well, so let baby killing be in the people hands???? Interesting.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
I agree, I've paid more attention to the presidential candidates and every republican has stated life starts with conception and against baby killing while democrats say it's ok for a mother to kill her baby. I notice soon after elected Obama reversed the ban to fund abortions with TAX DOLLARS.
I read where some of the older sumpreme justices are close to retiring and the abortion crowd were hoping they would last til a democrat was in office, wonder why?
Frankly, it doesn't matter because no matter who appoints justices the court will always rule in favor of choice. Let's be realists, choice isn't going away. It's been 30 years since Roe and we've steadily marched forward with more and more legislation and court decisions in favor of choice than we can name. No nation has every liberalized to choice and gone back to criminalization. It's here to stay and we best accept and find what we can do in this culture to reduce the number of abortions through preaching the gospel, helping women, and serving the lost. Let's stop being manipulated. Let's stop giving all this money to a lost cause when it can be used to save lives closer to home on a more personal level.
Remember it's not eveil, it's a mother choice that the govenment must stay out of.
I wonder if these baby killing folks believe when a pregnant mother is assaulted and the baby dies but she lives if there should only be charges regarding assualting the mother?
Please don't call anyone "baby killing folks" because we disagree with your political philosophy. Grow up.
The reality is that choice is here to stay. It's time to realize that and begin to walk in the Spirit not partisanship.
Oh, I know what they all say. With a gargantuan emphasis on say.
Thanks for emphasizing my point, TS. You completely side stepped the issue that for the last several years 7 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices were appointed by Republican administrations.
Why is abortion still legal in the U.S.? There seems to be a major disconnect in you're comparisons of justices appointed by Dem's and Repub's and reality.
Interestingly Pro-Life measures would be more successful under Democrats than Republicans. For example, in Ireland they have universal health care. Since the tax payers support the health care system they have increased power to say what is covered and what isn't. It's very possible that Democrats could usher in a universal health care system in the United States and the next pro-life administration curtail funding and services for ALL abortions in the U.S. and bypass the Supreme Court altogether. But I HIGHLY doubt it. It was just a thought.
Evil? Trying to persuade someone else to your train of thought is evil?
I don't think anyone (on this forum) is "using" religion to herd others into the Republical Party. That's a ludicrous assertion.
Most people on this board probably state what they truly believe about both religion and politics. It's unfair to assume they have a political agenda, and speak to their imaginary agenda rather than responding to their thoughts and beliefs.
Aquila, you have a very bad habit of objecting to others judging your heart and motives, but then turning around and doing the same yourself. If you want people to judge you fairly, then you need to make a habit of judging others fairly, and not assuming they have an agenda.
The point is simple. If one is a Christian they are treated like dirt if they aren't politically conservative. I can respect people who are political conservatives because it's what they believe personally. That's cool. But when they start questioning my being a Christian based on my politics, it's obvious they're just using religion as a political tool of manipulation, and I'm not afraid to call them on it.
I am a proud republican, having served until this year as precinct chairman for the local party. I am a proud republican simply because of the party's stand on abortion.
I'm not sure Christians should be supporting unions holding employers as hostages either.
If you like having a weekend, thank a union. lol
I see what you're saying. I think the unions have gotten way too powerful in some sectors. I work for the government (yes, I'm one of those bureaucrats who work in a government building balancing interdepartmental budgets). My family are very active in higher offices of AFSCME. Working for the government just appears to be a family trend. We have union leaders, police, firefighters, traffic engineers, water meter readers, and account reconcilers in our family, all working for the government. A few years ago when we took a family vacation to Canada (we have a cottage up off Charleston Lake, it's beautiful) we watched a video documentary that the union leadership was required to watch. It basically documented the union's actions relating to Hormel back in the 80's and featured how unions often hurt themselves in the long run by hurting employers. It was a prime example as to what not to do.
I think some industries do well with unions and others don't. It all depends.
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