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Old 12-23-2008, 10:51 AM
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Question about marriage

Can someone please explain to me why it was that God "tolerated" polygamy in the OT? In the NT Jesus clearly dealt with this issue (marriage is between 1 man & 1 woman), but i always wondered why God never told the patriarchs of the OT to stick to one gal. (I mean with all those prophets walking around you would think God would have text message, faxed or IM one of them to relay the message )

Multiple wives was obviously culturally excepted and the norm in OT times, but when you have Godly men in the OT involved with practices that are culturally accepted but wrong in biblical principle, you have to wonder why did God "tolerate" it.

What do you guys think?
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:53 AM
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Please provide the scriptures where Jesus dealt with polygamy.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:59 AM
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Please provide the scriptures where Jesus dealt with polygamy.
You are you kidding me?
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No. Not kidding.

I just want to make sure i am seeing the scriptures you are seeing and what they say.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:19 AM
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No. Not kidding.

I just want to make sure i am seeing the scriptures you are seeing and what they say.
Matt 19:4-6 (NASB)
4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh..."

From the "beginning" marriage consisted of only "TWO" people. Both from the opposite sex. If you add another person(s) (male/female) to the mix, the definition of marriage as depicted from the "beginning" changes.
Secondly Jesus didnt say that a man must leave his father and mother and cling to his WIVES.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:47 AM
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To replenish the earth and multiply
So let me get this straight. I can have as many wives as i can to reproduce if I lived back in the days of Abraham, but once there is enough humans then its wrong to take more than one wife? Come on! Show me were God said to stop reproducing and replenishing the earth.

In setting up guidelines for leadership in the church the bishop, deacon and elders all have one qualification in common, they have to have ONE WIFE (I tim 3:2,12, Titus 1:6). Polygamy was a concern so much so that the apostle thought its restriction had to be apart of the guidelines for leadership. Was the earth not replenished enough in Paul's day?
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I just threw that in there bro..,. I dont have a clue.

Just being me
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I just threw that in there bro..,. I dont have a clue.

Just being me
Scotty,
I have actually read, don't have my source, but they had multiple wives as a way of "enlarging their tents". I could see that as the largest tribes would rule.

Maybe someone has some info on that side of it.
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Matt 19:4-6 (NASB)
4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh..."

From the "beginning" marriage consisted of only "TWO" people. Both from the opposite sex. If you add another person(s) (male/female) to the mix, the definition of marriage as depicted from the "beginning" changes.
Secondly Jesus didnt say that a man must leave his father and mother and cling to his WIVES.
Hmmm... It doesn't seem to me that this was the intent of these scriptures. One could take particular words and infer that they had a meaning beyond the original intent but I don't see it as a specific verbage set out to define or even deal with this subject.

What do you think about the scripture that says that deacons should be the husband of one wife.

To you, does that seem to state that having more than one wife was a common or known practice during the time of the apostles?

I am not a polygamist and I have no intention or desire to be one either. But I just don't see where the Bible ever condemns the act. Some of the most well known characters in the Bible had more than one wife.

I think that, in our day and age, we have moved past that and for one to be a polygamist in this day and age (especially since you may be looking at jail time) wouldn't be good.

But I don't see, myself, where the Bible specifically out against the practice.
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