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12-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Indy
Sorry for your lack of experience. count yourself lucky. I have been to literally hundreds of op churches in my experience and thats not exageration either. It is far more common than you may think and the marginalising of it does not dim the reality of them existing. It may not be a majority but there are many pastors who set themselves up this way.
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No need to apologize. I'm blessed because of it I guess.
I have many roots in Pentecost, family all over the US, family of pastors, etc but can honestly say I know few men that see themselves this way. Doesn't discount your experience in the least. Suppose I'm blessed.
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12-16-2008, 03:54 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Yup. Those that disagree have heads in the sand, are ignorant and we are just waiting for the same enlightenment to come upon us that many of you have received. Pray for us.
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You're getting the message.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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12-16-2008, 04:00 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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You're getting the message.
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So because you have not found many of these its ok for you to say they don't exist. But since I have, its not ok for me to say it.
I'm getting the message too. Is that sand I see coming out your eears?
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12-16-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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So because you have not found many of these its ok for you to say they don't exist. But since I have, its not ok for me to say it.
I'm getting the message too. Is that sand I see coming out your eears?
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We must have some history I don't know about or something, since you really like to come out of the woodwork and try to aggravate me when I post here. 
It would enhance our communication if you would read what I say and not twist it.
I didn't say those kind didn't exist; i said they were not the norm.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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12-16-2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
By the way, I'll leave the insults to you, sand and all.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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12-16-2008, 04:25 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
Wow.
We've hit a new low.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-16-2008, 04:26 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Wow.
We've hit a new low.
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Are you referring to the "spiritual incest" remark?
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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12-16-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Are you referring to the "spiritual incest" remark?
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Why do you ask?
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-16-2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Wow.
We've hit a new low.
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Nope.
"We" haven't hit anything.
The remark only belongs to the one who made it.
On an open forum like this the opinions expressed only represent the poster and those who openly agree with them.
The nature of an open forum is that objectors have opportunity to refute the remark and by doing so distance themselves from the disagreeable.
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12-16-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Why do you ask?
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nothing else to do besides laugh at LCS bowing down to her Christmas tree.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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