How close should a pastor get to the members? - Page 32

rgcraig · #**311** 12-11-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amos

I prefer the Bible method, regardless of who the issue is with.

I was once grievously wronged by an official.

Members of the General Board urged me to file charges; I refused.

Jesus just said to forgive.

The UPC has a judical procedure to deal with grievances, but then again it is a man made organization and subject to all the shortcoming that such entails.

I am against filing charges with the org.

I prefer to do it the Bible way, saint or preacher, and I have practiced what I preach when it would have been far easier to do otherwise.

Is this org bashing?

- couldn't resist!

Michael Phelps · #**312** 12-11-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Amos

I prefer the Bible method, regardless of who the issue is with.

I was once grievously wronged by an official.

Members of the General Board urged me to file charges; I refused.

Jesus just said to forgive.

The UPC has a judical procedure to deal with grievances, but then again it is a man made organization and subject to all the shortcoming that such entails.

I am against filing charges with the org.

I prefer to do it the Bible way, saint or preacher, and I have practiced what I preach when it would have been far easier to do otherwise.

I agree with you, Amos. I appreciate your spirit.

The point I was trying to make is that there are different sets of rules for saints and preachers. And, I've been on both sides of the fence.

But, if a saint speaks ill of a pastor, it's pastor bashing. If a pastor speaks ill of another pastor, the accused pastor is subject to an investigation, and the term "pastor bashing" is not applied.

ManOfWord · #**313** 12-11-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

For Reverend Phelps

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Originally Posted by Amos

I prefer the Bible method, regardless of who the issue is with.

I was once grievously wronged by an official.

Members of the General Board urged me to file charges; I refused.

Jesus just said to forgive.

The UPC has a judical procedure to deal with grievances, but then again it is a man made organization and subject to all the shortcoming that such entails.

I am against filing charges with the org.

I prefer to do it the Bible way, saint or preacher, and I have practiced what I preach when it would have been far easier to do otherwise.

I couldn't agree with you more! Now if you would just treat posters with the same spirit.................that would be great!

Amos · #**314** 12-11-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I agree with you, Amos. I appreciate your spirit.

The point I was trying to make is that there are different sets of rules for saints and preachers. And, I've been on both sides of the fence.

But, if a saint speaks ill of a pastor, it's pastor bashing. If a pastor speaks ill of another pastor, the accused pastor is subject to an investigation, and the term "pastor bashing" is not applied.

Organizations have their rules, but God tallies up the score at the end of the road.

The UPC is a ministerial fellowship. It is open only to preachers.

The saints I pastor know who my pastor is, and who my elders are.

If there were an issue, they know who I am submitted to and who they could call.

Amos · #**315** 12-11-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I couldn't agree with you more! Now if you would just treat posters with the same spirit.................that would be great!

I can't remember the last time I got angry over an internet forum.

This is a spit and whittle corner--I am not wounded, nor am I offended at anybody that I have conversed with.

If I were, I would readily forgive them.

ManOfWord · #**316** 12-11-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Amos

I can't remember the last time I got angry over an internet forum.

This is a spit and whittle corner--I am not wounded, nor am I offended at anybody that I have conversed with.

If I were, I would readily forgive them.

It may be, but not everyone takes joy in getting spat & whittled on.

Bullwinkle · #**317** 12-11-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

Maybe some Pastors don't know their role. You can love people to God but the correction most talk about is; control, manipulation, and men on a power trip.

It's sweeping generalizations and asinine comments like this that make my visits to this forum very infrequent.
I'm not sure what the moose is supposed to mean?
Correction is part of a pastor's biblical mandate and responsibility.
If we're going to take a trip about pastors abusing authority let's talk also about saints and aints who are spiritual terrorists wreaking havoc among God's people.

Charnock · #**318** 12-11-2008, 10:24 PM

Go Bullwinkle!

rgcraig · #**319** 12-11-2008, 10:43 PM

"Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night!"

Sherri · #**320** 12-11-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

I have seen both sides, I got close then got burned badly, yet I agree with the clergy and lay person separation as being unscriptural and doesn't produce true discipleship.

So I guesss somewhere in the middle.

I agree with this. I do think it's dangerous to get too close to your saints; there has to be some difference in the level of leadership. We have been burned also by getting too buddy-buddy with some. It just doesn't seem to work. We try to treat everyone as equals, rather than having special friends in the congregation.