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Old 08-30-2008, 06:27 PM
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

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I can't express how disappointing this is.

I've heard something just this week - I wont repeat w/o
the facts but if/when it comes out, it's going to be really bad.

the news media is going to have a field day on it!!
It may be the same thing I found/heard that is now mysteriously missing from the internet! GRRRR
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

If any of it is true it is indeed sad.
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

I was preaching in Texas a few weeks ago, while there I listend to Jimmy Swaggart's radio station (I didn't know he had one and was just interesting to hear him again after so long) ANYHOW they did an entire program where Jimmy and his son and wife were ripping on Bishop Jakes for this sermon. They played that clip a few times...the sound was not distorted it was a clear recording.

I hope we are taking this out of context.
I hope that if we were able to hear the rest of the sermon we'd understand what he was trying to say in this clip...

I love Bishop Jakes ministry and hope this is being taken out of context...
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Old 08-30-2008, 08:35 PM
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I hope we are taking this out of context.
I hope that if we were able to hear the rest of the sermon we'd understand what he was trying to say in this clip...

I love Bishop Jakes ministry and hope this is being taken out of context...
Giving him as much benefit of the doubt as I can, I can see how in a certain context it might not be as bad as it sounds....

He could be trying to say that to some people it looks "lesbianish", and David and Johnathan's relationship looked gay to some folks, because a lot of people have trouble with people of the same gender expressing love for each other.

I still find his comments to be poor choice of words to say the least.
Just think... the bible says John leaned on Jesus' breast. Are we to say now that that bordered on homosexuality?

By saying that the Naomi/Ruth relationship "bordered on lesbianism", (even if he's just trying to say it might have that appearanceto some people) his words just play into the hands of those who embrace the perverted "gay theology"... which is unfortunate.

Preachers need to be careful what they say on topic of homosexuality, and how they say it, lest their words be used by the enemy as a way of giving support to perverted theology.

Maybe his words won't sound as bad if heard in full context of the sermon, but what we've heard so far doesn't sound good. And if people are suspicious of Jakes' thoughts and motives on the gay issue, they may have good reason. From having openly lesbian financial adviser Suze Orman at his Megafest event, to his mealymouthed answer to a question on homosexuality that he gave on NPR (the audio is below), the man has a dubious record when dealing with this topic.

I'm not going to go so far yet as to call him a false teacher who has lost his way (which some have already said), but I'll say this man is giving me reason to be a little concerned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xL2E10JJE
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:21 AM
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

I think we've known for a long time that Jakes has a more liberal theological bent. This wouldn't surprise me. A lot of churches and synagogues are starting to lean this direction on the issue.
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

I'm going to reserve my judgment until there is more than a quotation and someone giving their commentary on it. It is easy to take a quote and then harpoon someone with it. It happens here all the time. If Jakes is going that way, it will become evident.
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

I honestly don't see his remarks as such that condone homosexuality.

I don't think Bishop Jakes will ever condone sin.
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:31 PM
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Re: Is TD Jakes Going Pro Gay?

Reminds me of how one apostolic preacher would say (I think this is also a Bible quote)

When you turn away from light, and start going towards the darkness- how great is that darkness...

He's just going further and further.

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