Todd Bentley talks about the One God

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by U376977

JT, If going nuts and "wacky" for Jesus is criteria for "revival" then great. Bentely has the market cornered on that. I actually saw people holding Winnie the phooh bears in his crowd.

What does winnie the pooh have to do with anything?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by U376977

JT, If going nuts and "wacky" for Jesus is criteria for "revival" then great. Bentely has the market cornered on that. I actually saw people holding Winnie the phooh bears in his crowd.

But, I think you have to judge it by a little more strict critera. Not even by miracles or healings.

1. What is being preached? Does Bentely preach the gospel of repentance? Even confess-with-your-mouth and believe-in-your-heart Baptist salvation.

2. Does he preach to turn from sin and righteous living?

3. Is he lifting up and bringing glory to Christ.

But I do agree with you on one point. When God does move in a real revival I am certain it will be outside denom walls. The move of God has always been outside from the day of Pentecost on. I just don't think this has anything to do with God.

From the LOTS I have watched of his meetings he has talked about or done all 3 things you mentioned. With that being said even at healing events with in OP churches I have not heard much talk other than about miracles, signs, wonders, etc.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

What does winnie the pooh have to do with anything?

From what I can tell is it is a parayer cloth type of thing. Will all that I have watched I have not heard anytalk about winnie the pooh

[U376977]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

From what I can tell is it is a parayer cloth type of thing. Will all that I have watched I have not heard anytalk about winnie the pooh

Because JT wrote that this revival was poeple who were being "wacky" and going "nuts" for Jesus, I included the winnie-the-pooh thing because there were people in the crowd holding them. When I saw it I actually thought of a kid in the hospital who would be given these pooh's as a "prayer cloth" type thing. I least I hoped that is what the people were doing with them.

I don't want to come off as bashing the praise, or even the simple minded. I have no problem with what I call radical praise. They can jump, run, roll, and almost foam at the mouth and I will be right with them.

I have the attitude to let it alone. A few people may encounter a genuine experience with God and if so He will lead them to wisdom and a proper relationship with Himself.

I just know Bentley does not speak to me. He disqualifed himself by getting demonic symbols tattooed on himself AFTER he was supposedly "saved."

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by U376977

Because JT wrote that this revival was poeple who were being "wacky" and going "nuts" for Jesus, I included the winnie-the-pooh thing because there were people in the crowd holding them. When I saw it I actually thought of a kid in the hospital who would be given these pooh's as a "prayer cloth" type thing. I least I hoped that is what the people were doing with them.

I don't want to come off as bashing the praise, or even the simple minded. I have no problem with what I call radical praise. They can jump, run, roll, and almost foam at the mouth and I will be right with them.

I have the attitude to let it alone. A few people may encounter a genuine experience with God and if so He will lead them to wisdom and a proper relationship with Himself.

I just know Bentley does not speak to me. He disqualifed himself by getting demonic symbols tattooed on himself AFTER he was supposedly "saved."

What tattoos are you talking about?

[U376977]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

What tattoos are you talking about?

Well if you can't find the link I have it on my other computer, where I send personal email from. I found it by doing a google search on Todd Bentley tattoos. There is a pdf that someone has posted that has photos. There are Japanese symbols and there is a rose that has a demonic like figure in the rose bud. Then he has a medusa like figure on his leg. I have seen him kick people with this leg and yell "BAM."
Let me know if you can't find the link and I will post.

[scotty]

As Mike Oppenheimer from Let us Reason says, "Instead of people getting saved, they are getting lost--by listening to a man's experiences of the supernatural that are unbiblical and untrue."

Oppenheimer continues, "This revival has all the spiritual sensations and activities of the other revivals combined: Roaring, groaning, burning sensations in the body, head, and stomach; shaking, jerking, spiritual drunkenness and uncontrollable laughter and then some new manifestations. People have their eyes rolled back in the back of their heads. There are reports of women gyrating and pulsating like they've been ravaged from behind by some unseen force. Holy or un-holy may still be debated by some but to those of us who are knowledgeable of the previous 'revivals' and the power of the occult, the jury is in. The source is not the God of the Bible. This may disturb some but if they will use their Bible, pray, and think it through, they will gain discernment and spiritual understanding."

The shakes, jerks, twitching, frozen stillness, laughter, animal sounds, and more have all been standard in other "revivals." The Florida Revival is nothing new but it is preying on young and new believers who do not know their Bibles. It is also preying on the desperate: Sick people who can find no medical help.

Critic Jacob Prasch says, "The crowds following Bentley are seen being overcome by ugly spirits of drunkenness and stupor. It reflects the faulty theology of those in 'the river' movement popularized by the so-called 'Toronto Blessing.' Song lyrics reflect Kingdom-Now visions of the church taking over all the elements of society and setting up a kingdom on earth before the Lord returns which the Bible contradicts."

Todd himself talks about the mad chaos--totally uncharacteristic of God. He says, "During a visitation, the pastor's wife got totally whacked by the Holy Ghost. She began running around barking like a dog or squawking like a chicken as a powerful prophetic spirit came on her."

It is hard to tell the difference between the words of Bentley and those of Satan! Todd says: "You see, I want to be fruitful; I want to be far above. I want to be a conqueror; I want to be a mountain of strength; I want to be greatness. You know, we like that word greatness. Well, he who dwells in the secret place of the Most High automatically comes into everything that the Almighty is. It happens." Sounds like Isaiah 14:12 - 14 to me.

Angelology plays a large role here. He talks to an angel named Emma and he says, "So when I need a financial breakthrough, I don't just pray and ask God for my financial breakthrough. I go into intercession and become a partner with the angels by petitioning the Father for the angels that are assigned to getting me money: 'Father, give me the angels in heaven right now that are assigned to get me money and wealth. And let those angels be released on my behalf. Let them go into the four corners of the earth and gather me money.'"

As reported by Jacob Prasch, "Bentley refers to his angel as 'the angel of the Lord' and also waits upon Emma for the signs and wonders to manifest. However, according to Bible scholars, the term 'the angel of the Lord' is an Old Testament reference to the pre-incarnate Christ, also called a Theophany. It seems that Emma is really overstepping her bounds to be referred to as 'the angel of the Lord.'" She is most likely a demon.

Bentley and his close friend, the exposed false prophet Paul Cain, look to disgraced "prophet" William Branham. Pentecostal pastor Bill Randles says, "The only problem was Branham's teaching. He had a few quirks, such as his belief that the doctrine of the Trinity was of the devil, his belief that the zodiac was as valid as the Word of God, and his unfortunate belief that he was the angel of the Church of Laodicea! When he died in a head-on auto crash in 1965, his followers were so obsessed with his 'works of power,' they delayed burying him for several months, hoping that he would be resurrected the following Easter! He was that GREAT!"

We are warned in the Bible that the devil will "transform himself into an angel of light," and that in the last days will come "lying signs and wonders" that will deceive, if possible, the very elect" (II Thess. 2:9). Doesn't the Bible tell us that the devil is capable of the supposed "miracles" at the Bentley meetings?

[stmatthew]

I am simply amazed that this guy still gets an audience with anyone that calls themself Apostolic. Amazed......

[scotty]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I am simply amazed that this guy still gets an audience with anyone that calls themself Apostolic. Amazed......

you said it, even our most simple understanding of scripture and what should be Holy Ghost filled common sense is just layed by the wayside...

I'll take it step further at the risk of backlash and say that those apostolics who do attend probably do so searching for something their own church lacks.
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I share your amazement...