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Old 11-25-2007, 10:00 AM
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I enjoyed the debates of the past Hicks-Ferguson-Hayes-Bayer-Welch-Johnson. The Campbellites still have them. I have had two in the works for about 4 years but timing has never worked for us.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:59 PM
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I wonder how much this debate weighed on Sabin in reshaping his soteriological position? Would this debate have been different if a PCIer had debated alongside Sabin? Why didn't Urshan say that there were men in his org .... like Goss ... who thought the Baptists were saved?

Why didn't Urshan allow this? Or was being on TV more important?
Dan, not just Howard A. Goss, but Andrew D. Urshan also believed the Baptists are saved.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:02 PM
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I agree with you...to the point of adding many women in the mix who could have done the same

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Old 11-25-2007, 02:23 PM
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Have you ever met the man? Have you ever sat down and talked with him? Its easy to judge from a distance a mans heart.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:25 PM
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I am just curious here, why hasn't there been any prolific debates between academics in the UPC and mainstream like the one we are talking about that took place, what, 25 years ago?
After that debate Sabin took on associates of WM in debates. One in Davenport and one in Newport beach Ca. (I was there). He also debated James White ...well it really wasn't a debate. RS didn't seem like he really cared to debate. It was a pretty poor showing

David Bernard debated Cooke and then he debated some University professor...I have that on CD somewhere.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:04 PM
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:33 PM
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Sabin & Bernard lacked the fire of Hicks and others. They made it interesting.
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Sabin & Bernard lacked the fire of Hicks and others. They made it interesting.
That's right SE! Marvin Hicks would have made it very interesting and the outcome would have been much different.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:23 PM
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That's right SE! Marvin Hicks would have made it very interesting and the outcome would have been much different.
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Hicks made it entertaining!!!!!!!!! Johnson was funny. Bayer would awe them. But I think the best debator was Hayes as far as information and both the affirmative and negative in an intelliegent manner. But Hicks made it fun.
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