If some one become drunk not knowing how much they could handle before becoming drunk is not a sin.
Really? Are you sure you're going to stick with that?
So if I accidentally murder someone while beating them over the head with a bat, because I didn't know how many hits they could take....its not a sin?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
1. The Bible clearly defines drunkenness as a sin.
2. It does not clearly define drinking (in moderation, presumably withOUT becoming drunk) as a sin.
3. It DOES, however, strongly discourage Kings, Princes and Bishops from drinking at all. (Scripture references available for those who care.)
4. Culturally, it isn't wise, considering the overindulgence that IS a problem, especially among college age young people.
5. From a Christian perspective, should we associate ourselves with a habit that can break down families, cause a lack of good judgment, and turn perfectly nice people into monsters? To name a FEW....
6. What is the benefit of drinking, other than pleasure? Can anyone present a list of pros that is anywhere near the list of cons in size? (Don't bother with the "health" benefits. You can receive the same benefits from other sources.)
Why would you want to use something even occasionally that your children could become addicted to, and subsequently ruin their lives with?
My Daddy was a mean drunk, so I've been told through my mother and siblings who had to suffer through it. The fact that he later became a Christian did NOT undo their emotional pain. I know another member of this forum whose sister was killed by a drunk driver. I'm sure there are more than a few members who have struggled with alcoholism in the past, and as Christians we are NOT supposed to be stumbling blocks. Some users here probably had parents who abused them when they were drunk.
Biblical points aside, the insensitivity on this issue is shocking. Our western culture is not a culture of restraint, which places alcohol use in a whole different category than it was in Bible days.
BY the way...
I Corinthians 6:10 "...Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Anyone want to guess what "drunkard" means?
Are you ready?
methusos
meth'-oo-sos
From G3184; tipsy, that is, (as noun) a sot: - drunkard.
Posted by RandyWayne:
God has "blessed" me with a body that cannot handle getting drunk. I go from slightly tipsy to sick with no in-between.
All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
What may not be expedient to you may not be a stumbling block for another ... this one size fits all theology is so pervasive in our movement that I fear it will never disappear. Tradition upon tradition ... no room for the Holy Spirit ...
It confuses me when folks who claim to make room for the Holy Ghost in their lives have no concern for brothers and sisters, but only themselves and how many liberties they can collect.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
To be drunk does not make one a drunkard or an abuser.
Cooper, you are officially on ignore, before I say something I might regret or get banned for.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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