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Old 10-29-2007, 02:04 PM
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Before logging out of this thread ...

I will reiterate that we all feel and empathize for those who have suffered the trauma of alcoholism ... it should not be confused w/, however, the sin of getting drunk .... or confused w/ the comments about the effects of alcohol stated in the thread in question.

But to castigate others for conclusions made in one person's minds is ... well fill in the blanks ....

Peace out.
Whatever Dan.

Your comment lacked wisdom.

The glorification of drinking on the other thread was, at the very least, ignorant.

Further, yours is not the ONLY opinion that matters.

Save your marginalizations for people who wil cower in the presence of your "intellect."
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:05 PM
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Here's all I know:

1. The Bible clearly defines drunkenness as a sin.

2. It does not clearly define drinking (in moderation, presumably withOUT becoming drunk) as a sin.

3. It DOES, however, strongly discourage Kings, Princes and Bishops from drinking at all. (Scripture references available for those who care.)

4. Culturally, it isn't wise, considering the overindulgence that IS a problem, especially among college age young people.

5. From a Christian perspective, should we associate ourselves with a habit that can break down families, cause a lack of good judgment, and turn perfectly nice people into monsters? To name a FEW....


6. What is the benefit of drinking, other than pleasure? Can anyone present a list of pros that is anywhere near the list of cons in size? (Don't bother with the "health" benefits. You can receive the same benefits from other sources.)

Why would you want to use something even occasionally that your children could become addicted to, and subsequently ruin their lives with?

My Daddy was a mean drunk, so I've been told through my mother and siblings who had to suffer through it. The fact that he later became a Christian did NOT undo their emotional pain. I know another member of this forum whose sister was killed by a drunk driver. I'm sure there are more than a few members who have struggled with alcoholism in the past, and as Christians we are NOT supposed to be stumbling blocks. Some users here probably had parents who abused them when they were drunk.

Biblical points aside, the insensitivity on this issue is shocking. Our western culture is not a culture of restraint, which places alcohol use in a whole different category than it was in Bible days.

BY the way...

I Corinthians 6:10 "...Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Anyone want to guess what "drunkard" means?

Are you ready?

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From G3184; tipsy, that is, (as noun) a sot: - drunkard.
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Key difference ... Jesus didn't turn water into a spliff, my theological scholar friend. Nor did Paul advise Timmy to freebase.

Read your bible.
Bump for PP.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:07 PM
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Key difference ... Jesus didn't turn water into a spliff, my theological scholar friend. Nor did Paul advise Timmy to freebase.

Read your bible.
My theology is fine, as opposed to your ME-ology. You seem to make every attempt to appease flesh at every opportunity imaginable. Good luck pastoring people Daniel.

Jesus did not promote drunkenness.

There weren't two to five ton vehicles being driven by drunks either.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:08 PM
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My theology is fine, as opposed to your ME-ology. You seem to make every attempt to appease flesh at every opportunity imaginable. Good luck pastoring people Daniel.

Jesus did not promote drunkenness.

There weren't two to five ton vehicles being driven by drunks either.
Duh. More judmentalism wrapped in ecclesiatical garbs and poor exegesis.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:12 PM
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dan i was allready praying for you, but you are still here, lol,dt
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All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

What may not be expedient to you may not be a stumbling block for another ... this one size fits all theology is so pervasive in our movement that I fear it will never disappear. Tradition upon tradition ... no room for the Holy Spirit ...
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You don't believe getting drunk is a sin?
At what point is some one drunk?

If some one become drunk not knowing how much they could handle before becoming drunk is not a sin.
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