A sinner is a sinner is a sinner...and a Christian's primary calling is to lead them to Christ.
Here's a thought...have we had only a few homosexuals saved because Christians, for the most part, avoid them?
We not only avoid, but we do not know how to minister to them. Those truly homophobic are either afraid of something they do not understand, or they understand all too well and are afraid of themselves.:sshhh
What I really think is we need LEARNED people in our mist that know how to help people ...Have you ever noticed how "afraid" Pentecostal people are of educated people that know how to deal with people that have "deep" problems...A little book learning might help us all out a bit...
and yes I do know one that completely changed...
If the "worldly denominations" can have clinics for this or that I ask where are we??? It should be us the Holy Ghost filled people that are reaching out in every possible way...
Sadly many are stuck in the mud...Oh, if we could just move out to where the sinner lives and offer a fresh pot of manna to his hungry soul...
I believe in the power of the gospel. If the gospel cannot change then something is wrong...If the sinner wants deliverance and cannot be delivered then something is wrong with us.
It is easy to make excuses for our lack of power. We must pray as never before. We live in a world of much sin...but where sin abounds GRACE much more abounds...
(just a few thoughts of mine)
What I really think is we need LEARNED people in our mist that know how to help people ...Have you ever noticed how "afraid" Pentecostal people are of educated people that know how to deal with people that have "deep" problems...A little book learning might help us all out a bit...
and yes I do know one that completely changed...
If the "worldly denominations" can have clinics for this or that I ask where are we??? It should be us the Holy Ghost filled people that are reaching out in every possible way...
Sadly many are stuck in the mud...Oh, if we could just move out to where the sinner lives and offer a fresh pot of manna to his hungry soul...
I believe in the power of the gospel. If the gospel cannot change then something is wrong...If the sinner wants deliverance and cannot be delivered then something is wrong with us.
It is easy to make excuses for our lack of power. We must pray as never before. We live in a world of much sin...but where sin abounds GRACE much more abounds...
(just a few thoughts of mine)
What I really think is we need LEARNED people in our mist that know how to help people ...Have you ever noticed how "afraid" Pentecostal people are of educated people that know how to deal with people that have "deep" problems...A little book learning might help us all out a bit...
and yes I do know one that completely changed...
If the "worldly denominations" can have clinics for this or that I ask where are we??? It should be us the Holy Ghost filled people that are reaching out in every possible way...
Sadly many are stuck in the mud...Oh, if we could just move out to where the sinner lives and offer a fresh pot of manna to his hungry soul...
I believe in the power of the gospel. If the gospel cannot change then something is wrong...If the sinner wants deliverance and cannot be delivered then something is wrong with us.
It is easy to make excuses for our lack of power. We must pray as never before. We live in a world of much sin...but where sin abounds GRACE much more abounds...
(just a few thoughts of mine)
But, I'm just scared to death of what they do to each other.
It's perverted, nasty, filthy annnnnd sinful.
I have preached to and worked with homosexuals trying my best to help them, but tolerate their "life style" while they profess to be changing... not in this lifetime.
How careful should we be in inviting gay people to church?
Now, say you run into a drag queen on the street, they kind of want to go to church, but they are afraid of being bashed and treated badly in the church. Would you invite them to church, if you had even the slightest bit of hesitation?
Would you treat them the same, if only because they're still a person? What they do in their private life is disgusting. But, it doesn't mean that can't get the Holy Ghost and change. How would you handle this?
They're welcome @ my church. They'll be greeted with a welcoming smile and Godly love. They're no different than a drug dealer, pimp, prostitute, liar, etc.
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
If you aren't comfortable bringing people who are gay to your church because of what the church's reaction would be...I'd have to say...You are in the wrong church and you need to search for another.:sshhh
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
I would answer, but I suffer from an extreme case of homophobia.
That's sad, but I'm not surprised.
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
Me?
Really homophobic?
Not in the classic sense.
But, I'm just scared to death of what they do to each other.
It's perverted, nasty, filthy annnnnd sinful.
I have preached to and worked with homosexuals trying my best to help them, but tolerate their "life style" while they profess to be changing... not in this lifetime.
Don't be scurred. God loves them just as much as He does anyone else who commits any other sin.
I've had a few gay friends - all of which were well-mannered and well-behaved. (not to mention well-dressed) They weren't overt in their homosexuality or lesbianism, and I never felt threatened or was afraid of what they did or who they were.
Regarding whether or not they continue living for God once they've been saved and delivered. That's really not for us to worry about. Sure, many may well forsake God and go back to sin, but that shouldn't stop anyone from continuing to reach out to that particular community.
I've known liars (some licensed ministers) who lie and continue to lie. Doesn't mean I shun them or others like them.
I will get executed I guess but this is a sincere question. I know from scripture that homosexuals can be saved(1Cor. 6:9-11) however has anyone ever known one changing and staying changed? I haven't I would just like to know if anyone personally knows of one changing and maintaining their 'straight' stance for a good period of time?? Again NOT saying it can't be done we have scripture 'where such were some of you.' Just asking for personal experience?
Brother E, I knew a fellow who was gay. He came to the Lord around 1980 or so in his mid 30's. Tragically in 1985 or 86, he became sick with AIDS. His decline was very fast and he died of that terrible disease. He was engaged to a lady in the church but sadly they never married. She did take care of him in his final days.
He died full of the Holy Ghost.
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