Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Sean is LIVING PROOF that you cannot be saved without a GOOD pastor.

LOL

[Sean]

A REAL good pastor or a pretty good pastor?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

However, you guys only want to discredit the poster, but run from the posted verses.

"Discredit?" You're the King of discredit.

You discredit God's Truth.

You discredit those who stand for God's Truth.

And you discredit anyone and anything you disagree with...even if that means false information.


Sean, you exaggerate any response against your ridiculous posts to mean you're all-powerful. But what your narcissism blinds you from seeing is your posts really make you more like a pesky gnat at a BBQ than an apologist in a debate.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Which proves that you are unsure of your doctrine by now.

Sean, everyone--including you--is unsure of your doctrine.

Everyone!

[Sean]

Then let us hash out the verses!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Gal 1
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,


Right.



4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:


Right, Jesus our Lord and God our Father and his Father.


Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Back to the OP.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Then let us hash out the verses!

Ok, you can start by answering aegsm76's question.

They've asked you this MANY TIMES, and you've never given an answer that actually dealt with what is asked.

I added some spacing and formatting to make their post easier for you to read. (I hope you do not mind, aegsm76)

So, here you go:

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Sean,
I am not following the entire thread, only bump in with my questions.

But, seems like I remember you speaking about how when the scripture said something like "God and the Lord Jesus Christ", you felt that was affirmation for your doctrine.

So, I was reading this weekend and came across this:

Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Did some checking and found this:

Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

and

Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

if you say that in example A it means 2 then how do you view these scriptures?

aegsm76 is using the same interpretation rule you use and asking why their verses do not mean there is a God and there is a separate Father. That's what you do with verses that speak of the Father and the Son. So, please do answer aegsm76's question--as asked.




I cannot wait to see if you do...and if you do, how you do it.

[Sean]

I gave numerous examples of his(and Bro. Epley's) rule.

They did not make sense when I reworded the verses as they read them.

Then I asked if the wording in the KJV was wrong.

I am still waiting for responses.

[Sean]

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[Sean]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

But you make it one "person" when it says:

"God and our Father"

According to the way you see the other phrases, then that phrase should be two, as well.
Or
Maybe the you are right about "God and our Father".
That means one.
And
So do the phrases that say "God and the Lord Jesus Christ".

Shall we just get rid of "and the" to create our doctrine?

Let's just assume that is okay.


Now, how do we make this harmonize?....



Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.