Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yes. God is timless. Think about it before you respond.

I think before responding?

You didn't even answer what I asked.

Let's try it again:

So, Jesus, the man, was there with the Father during the creation?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

The Logos is the word of the Spirit.(part of God)

Logos is the Word of the Spirit, but the Spirit didn't become flesh? That's as clear as sheet iron. You think you could find a better explanation with the scripture?

Originally Posted by Sean

The worlds were made by the same word.

Yes, Jesus God made the World, by Himself. Hence the logos is God's thought creating action. That's what the ancients believed the logos was.

Originally Posted by Sean

Jesus was made by the same word.

So, the logos created the logos? Would you like to take another shot at this?

Originally Posted by Sean

The word of the Spirit was made flesh, not the Spirit itself was made flesh.

The word of the Spirit was made flesh, not the Spirit? Was the Word of the Spirit of Christ made flesh, or the Word of the Holy Spirit made flesh? Which one?

Originally Posted by Sean

On the contrary,

Jesus(flesh) was MADE SPIRIT after the resurrection...

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After the resurrection Jesus flesh wasn't made a spirit.

Luke 24:39

See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

Originally Posted by Sean

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

That's the Holy Ghost you Bozo.

1 Peter 1:10-11 the Apostle Peter said that the Holy Ghost which was in the prophets was the SPIRIT OF CHRIST.

In the immortal words of Elder James LeDeay, "Get right"

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I think before responding?

You didn't even answer what I asked.

Let's try it again:

So, Jesus, the man, was there with the Father during the creation?

That's what Joe Smith said.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I think before responding?

You didn't even answer what I asked.

Let's try it again:

So, Jesus, the man, was there with the Father during the creation?

Yes!!!

Jesus even died before the world was created.



8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


Dont you agree?

[Sean]

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

That's the Holy Ghost you Bozo.

1 Peter 1:10-11 the Apostle Peter said that the Holy Ghost which was in the prophets was the SPIRIT OF CHRIST.


The last Adam was made the Holy Ghost?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Just quoting Bible passages with an overly obvious statement is not teaching, Sean.

You don't allow that from any of us, so why would you believe we should allow it from you?

Come on, Teacher--explain it. You're the one telling us how important it is to your doctrine, so surely you know it well enough to teach it in detail.

So, take what you posted above and fill in the details of how these verses work together and what they mean regarding you theology,

That is the best approach.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

So, Jesus had a body, soul, and spirit before Mary birthed Him?

Please, give us the Scripture for that.

Here is a whole passage about Jesus' body soul and spirit in the present tense...




22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.



God witnessed this before the foundation of the world.

Do you think God has the ability to witness this at that time?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

So, Jesus, the man, was there with the Father during the creation?

He died before creation.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Is this your God the Father or your God the Son?

You have so many I want to make sure I understand.

There is no such thing as God the Son.

God the Father indwells His only BEGOTTEN son.

Do you know what BEGET means?...



be·get
bəˈɡet/Submit
verbliterary
1.
(typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
"they hoped that the King might beget an heir by his new queen"
synonyms: father, sire, have, bring into the world, give life to, bring into being, spawn
"he begat a son"

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I thought Jesus did not receive the Father until after the resurrection?

No, the Father left him only on the cross.