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09-29-2017, 09:31 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Yet, H/U(trins/oneness) will not face these beliefs of John and Paul.(also the very words of Christ)
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Sean, you only have a couple of scriptures. You never dealt with Mary at the tomb. You said that Jesus was God after the resurrection. Mary at the tomb was after the RESURRECTION!!! Was Jesus GOD then?
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09-29-2017, 09:38 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
This one tripped my H/U doctrine up big time.
I always blended the 2 into 1, but the comparison is unity as 1, not everyone is one person as Christ/God are one person.
All of us are one, unified by the Spirit, but not one person.
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Wow, Sean that is as clear as a block wall.
THAT THEY MAY BE ONE AS JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.
Is the same way the temple and God were ONE.
God was in the cloud on Mount Sinai, God was in the tabernacle and met Moses in the tent door as a cloud, God was in the temple and His cloud filled the temple. Jesus' Body is the temple and God filled it completely making ONE LITERAL GOD. Not a Trinity, The apostles would be one because they would complete the new body of Christ, which would be the Church, the remnant of the True Israel of God. You bring us the same old gal, but you are the only one who sees her in a different dress. You are a Trinitarian. Sorry, but your doctrine looks and smells the same. .
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09-29-2017, 09:42 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Look at the 2 persons again....
Think of this for a minute.
One person is praying/speaking to another person.
This is not a fake prayer/discussion.
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No, you think of it for a minute.
Don't blow smoke, and claim you believe in One God. You have been talking two gods from giddy up. If you have two persons then those two persons are unified eternally in what you have been chanting. When John saw ONE on the throne all you see is a UNIFIED ONE. Not a literal one.
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09-29-2017, 09:45 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Now add this....
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Now, what did JOHN believe?
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There you go folks.
Sean kept saying that Jesus was God AFTER the resurrection? Can you all give an amen? Of course. But here you have Sean now pointing out that his post resurrection God Jesus, also has a God?
Right Sean? Jesus is telling Mary to tell His followers that He is going to the Father, and not only the Father but His GOD. Right? So you said that at this point He was GOD. Now GOD 2 is telling a female, that He must go to GOD 1.
Right Sean?
Two gods, not ONE GOD.
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09-29-2017, 10:05 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
John 1:1-2 explains that Jesus is God, He is the Word made physical.
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09-29-2017, 10:24 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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There you go folks.
Sean kept saying that Jesus was God AFTER the resurrection? Can you all give an amen? Of course. But here you have Sean now pointing out that his post resurrection God Jesus, also has a God?
Right Sean? Jesus is telling Mary to tell His followers that He is going to the Father, and not only the Father but His GOD. Right? So you said that at this point He was GOD. Now GOD 2 is telling a female, that He must go to GOD 1.
Right Sean?
Two gods, not ONE GOD.
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Yep, Sean has two Gods, united in will and purpose. Just like the Vatican.
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09-29-2017, 10:49 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Yep, Sean has two Gods, united in will and purpose. Just like the Vatican.
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Amen, we always have these revisionists who wake up one morning with their own personal epiphany. Sadly, they make sure to not tell the ministry until they spread their new light among the brethren. One poster brought up how a new convert was dragged under the wheels of an angel of light, only to leave his family and church. Sad, how someone can be duped in not only believing in revamped Trinitarianism, but be so deluded to believe they are on a special mission to restore that which was never broken.
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09-29-2017, 11:41 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
You already posted that was Spirit and Truth.
How if Jesus was the logos, and It is He who had revealed the Father John 1:18 can they be two separate persons? John shows us this further when he records Jesus telling Phillip how Phillip should of known who the Father actually was. That being Jesus John 14:9 . Therefore they are not two separate co equal co eternal beings but one literal being. Correct? You can't continue to say that you are One God if you believe that Jesus and the father together make up a unified God?
That isn't one as the numeral, but one as a unified one. Like the Trinity, which is three separate persons, coexisting, coeternal, and coequal. You have two persons who are coequal and coeternal. |
Wrong, I have one supreme God inside a man.
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09-29-2017, 11:44 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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This is what this is all about? You are supposed to be some sort of Moses to the Apostolic movement? Sean do you believe that you are the last prophet to the church age? Let me guess? You are the angel to the church of Laodicea? You are the messenger to the Laodicean church age? Howin the name of sanity does religions breed such utter madness? Weirdos sitting in their underwear on a desk top posting from dark to dark. While all the while believing they have some special anointing to restore what was never broken.
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No, just moseying by ......
reading John. Noticing nobody agrees with him, the other apostles or Jesus. It is fascinating indeed.
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09-29-2017, 11:46 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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2? That's all you seem to see, two? You are a Twinitarian.  |
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