Defending John Macarthur

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Do you know what nephesh is?

It's not some "force" in the blood. It's a person's soul, their inner essence of being. Since this inner essence of being is in the blood of all humans, and even in animals, to a degree, when blood is shed, this inner essence is lost, hence why the physical body dies if sufficient quantities of it are lost (Also, it's why murder [shedding of blood] and the drinking and eating of blood was strenuously forbidden by Torah code of conduct).

Jesus died of cardiac arrest due to massive hemorrhage brought on by trauma and shock.

When this happened, more than just liquid poured out. His inner essence of being, what is considered His soul in Isaiah 53:10, also departed His flesh, when He died. It was this soul, that the Father would not leave in Sheol (See Psalm 16:10 and Acts 2:27), this inner essence of Christ's being, that propitiated the Father, since it was a life lived in perfect obedience, submission, and humility, even in death.

This same inner essence of Christ's being is imparted to us when we receive the Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9), or Spirit of God's Son (Galatians 4:6). This is why the Spirit is life, because of righteousness (Romans 8:10). Because of Christ's righteousness, His Spirit imparts new life to us--HIS LIFE, gained again by the glory and power of the Father when God raised Jesus from the dead.

Many medical doctors believe Jesus died of asphyxiation, as was the case of most victims of crucifixion.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

So you believe then the Spirit baptism is only an endowment of power for service and not the spiritual quickening that resurrects us from spiritual death? Just seeking clarification as you seem to be implying that this life is imparted unto us in baptism.

Baptism is one, no matter how anyone would like to flip it around concerning what comes first the chicken or the egg. It is still one Lord, one faith, and ONE BAPTISM. Jesus told Nicodemus, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. The whole religious quagmire is that we compartmentalize this process into two or three steps. These steps being found in the Bible happening rearranged from the order shown us in Acts 2:38. Yet, the baptism is still one process. No one can enter the Paradise of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Death, burial, and resurrection, walking in newness of life, following the example of Jesus Christ. It is wholistic, and not independent of each other.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Many medical doctors believe Jesus died of asphyxiation, as was the case of most victims of crucifixion.

Jesus died when He chose to die.

Anyone ever seen someone beaten to death? Bleed to death?

We all have heard Jesus' crucifixion with scientific explanations. Yet, Jesus made this very important point, No man takes my life from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last. Luke 23:46, John 10:18. This must be paramount in our minds. Trying to medically, scientifically explain cause of death in Jesus' crucifixion? Is like trying to use the same process to explain the Virgin birth, and His resurrection.