Who was Harry Morse ?

[derAlte]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Their family came from Hungary in 1903. Scism and Reznicsek drove to Oakland together from Salem, Oregon. Elis was a student and Reznicsek was on furlough from India.

Both were part of the same church in Salem. Ellis wrote of his burden for India having begun while a member there.

That explains things...thanks!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

One branch of the Velles were School of Prophets(Sowderites) met them in Jax.

Interesting thing is, we have a quite a few churches of Sowderites in Fort Lauderdale.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Interesting thing is, we have a quite a few churches of Sowderites in Fort Lauderdale.

Mostly Haitians aren't they?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Mostly Haitians aren't they?

They are Haitians around here, but they also have mixed group in West Palm, Boca, Orlando, Miami. They also have a few splinter groups.

[Scott Pitta]

Before Azusa Street and William Seymour, there was a short lived "denomination" called the Peniel Mission. There are a few still around, like in Stockton, but they do not have any archives.

They were quite similar to the Salvation Army or the Volunteers of America. They reached out to the poorest segment of our society.

Many Pentecostals were part of the Peniel Mission. Many Peniel Missions became Pentecostal churches. Including Harry Morse Levy Haney, Lydia Swinton and Selma Nelson.

As I find bits of data about the Peniel Mission, I have been logging them into a database. At first, there was not enough data to present a clear picture. Now, as enough data has been entered, I have a better understanding of who they were. Progress is slow, but cumulative.

[Scott Pitta]

1906 Harry Morse is pastor of the Peniel Mission in San Pedro.

1908 Mamie Russell is pastor of the Peniel Mission in San Pedro.

Turns out there are 3 Mamie Russells in Central California at the same time.

1. She is a socialite who attends parties in Sacramento
2. She is a school teacher from the San Joe area.
3. She pastored the Peniel Mission and is probably a missionary.

1 and 2 had both passed away by 1924.
3 not sure about the missionary Russell.

Typical problem. 2 or 3 people with the same name. Once I begin collecting the data, I can sort them out. Still trying to find more data about the Peniel pastor Mamie Russell.

Did she know Harry Morse ? Did she pastor other Peniel Missions ? How did Harry Morse land the pastor position at the San Pedro Peniel Mission in the first place ?

He knew most of the Azusa Street leadership. He was friends with Frank Bartleman. Did he know Peniel leadership ??

Not sure.

[Scott Pitta]

Today began with a new old picture of Harry Morse and 2 students chowing down on some watermelon out in the woods. The picture was dated to 1932. After a little homework, I determined Morse took a vacation to Lake Tahoe in August of 1932.

That was easy.

They after reviewing my notes I realized there was a gap in the data from 1928 until around 1935. For whatever reason, Harry did not advertise in the paper. If he had revivals, they are unknown. Or he did not have them. I have data from other sources to fill in the gap. Just not sure why he stopped advertising.

I then found a handful of evangelists who did preach for Morse in the 1930's. I tracked them to see where else they went before and after Oakland. That exercise did not yield much fruit. Churches did not call themselves "Oneness" back then, but it appears they called themselves "Full Gospel".

Evangelists tracked were: Frank Ewert and J Webster, Willard Pope/Clark, Mack Wyatt and the Clark Singers, B.M. Keller, J. A. Johnson, A. H. Beisner, E. L. Moore (from Texas), Dan Hays, Dawson McCullough, Jonathan E. Perkins, William Francis Manley.

I picked up some data about some of them. Most of them seemed to preach for Morse and then either leave the state, or they went where no one would put an add in the paper.

I hope to learn which churches fellowshipped with each other. There are patterns, but some of those churches are obscure.

It has been a busy day.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

1906 Harry Morse is pastor of the Peniel Mission in San Pedro.

1908 Mamie Russell is pastor of the Peniel Mission in San Pedro.

Turns out there are 3 Mamie Russells in Central California at the same time.

1. She is a socialite who attends parties in Sacramento
2. She is a school teacher from the San Joe area.
3. She pastored the Peniel Mission and is probably a missionary.

1 and 2 had both passed away by 1924.
3 not sure about the missionary Russell.

Typical problem. 2 or 3 people with the same name. Once I begin collecting the data, I can sort them out. Still trying to find more data about the Peniel pastor Mamie Russell.

Did she know Harry Morse ? Did she pastor other Peniel Missions ? How did Harry Morse land the pastor position at the San Pedro Peniel Mission in the first place ?

He knew most of the Azusa Street leadership. He was friends with Frank Bartleman. Did he know Peniel leadership ??

Not sure.

I thought Bartleman and the early Bonnie Brae folks (and thus early Azusa St folks) were connected with Peniel? So it seems there is a circle of people 1904-1908 associated with Peniel, Azusa St, and Bonnie Brae, rubbing shoulders with Parham's Apostolic Faith movement?

Looks like they all knew each other?

[Scott Pitta]

Peniel was primarily a West coast collection of missions that were prior to Azusa Street. Many of them became Pentecostal after the Azusa Street outpouring.

From my understanding, Parham had very little influence on the Peniel group.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Peniel was primarily a West coast collection of missions that were prior to Azusa Street. Many of them became Pentecostal after the Azusa Street outpouring.

From my understanding, Parham had very little influence on the Peniel group.

I wasn't saying Parham had influence on them, just saying that at Azusa the Peniel folks and Parham's folks crossed paths.

Where did the Peniel Mission group come from, any idea?