Belief in god and the right to homosexuality?

[shazeep]

so iow never mind that people are treated like dirt because they are gay, can't visit in hospital without pointless harassment, and etc on and on? I can't say i know, but i can say that gay people were hugely oppressed, and this might be viewed in another light. If they had been treated right in the first place i can't help but think we would not be at this bridge. By many accounts, they were forced into a marriage contract out of desperation. You are (supposedly) defending a spiritual institution against them, when they seem to be pursuing a legal one for themselves, wadr.

[thephnxman]

BUMP

(Jude 1:12): "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they
feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are
without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers,
without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots..."

The above scripture describes those who claim to believe in God, and
then also claim a right to either be homosexual, or embrace a right of
the homosexual agenda. They are they that "...God gave them over
to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient..."
Of course there are some who have not yet reached that final stage,
but are found in the beginning and secondary stages of unbelief before
being given over to a reprobate mind.

The beginning stage (Rom. 1:26) is ignorance and unbelief in the gospel
that saves: they begin to believe that there just has to be some other
way to be justified. The secondary stage (Rom. 1:28) is belief in the LAW;
yet the LAW in which they think they have finally found justification is
NOT in God's Law, but that of man. For "...the god of this world..." has
discovered that the fastest way to recruit new converts(proselyte) is
to LEGALIZE sin!

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous
judgment."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

BUMP

(Jude 1:12): "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they
feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are
without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers,
without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots..."

The above scripture describes those who claim to believe in God, and
then also claim a right to either be homosexual, or embrace a right of
the homosexual agenda.

well, you might read it that way; that describes someone else to me. The Sodomites were of a different frame of mind imo than most gay people today, personally i see Sodomites better reflected in mega-pastors and the 1%, "feeding themselves without fear," whereas you might be fixated on the sex, although that certainly is a desire that many "feed" as well. But i doubt it is limited to sex.

Regardless, i can't say that i disagree with you, just that i don't think it is as cut and dried as we like to make it. God understands how society makes gay people, and surely knows more than me about agendas of population reduction, say, and (literally) force feeding everyone estrogen analogues (unfermented soy) and their effect on sexuality.

It isn't exactly like we present some shining model of spiritual hetero marriage, anyway; our failure rate is right at 50%, and we fully embrace marriage with a license required etc. so you already know their copy of the Bible reads just like yours, i'd work on the beam and not the splinter is all i mean to say.

[thephnxman]

BUMP

(Jude 1:12): "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they
feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are
without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers,
without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots..."

The above scripture describes those who claim to believe in God, and
then also claim a right to either be homosexual, or embrace a right of
the homosexual agenda. They are they that "...God gave them over
to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient..."
Of course there are some who have not yet reached that final stage,
but are found in the beginning and secondary stages of unbelief before
being given over to a reprobate mind.

The beginning stage (Rom. 1:26) is ignorance and unbelief in the gospel
that saves: they begin to believe that there just has to be some other
way to be justified. The secondary stage (Rom. 1:28) is belief in the LAW;
yet the LAW in which they think they have finally found justification is
NOT in God's Law, but that of man. For "...the god of this world..." has
discovered that the fastest way to recruit new converts(proselyte) is
to LEGALIZE sin!

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous
judgment."

[mfblume]

Can't deal with antichrist philosophy. It's trolling at everything stated.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

I can't say i know

Well, ain't that the post of the year!

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It's trolling at everything stated.

yes, "it."

[shazeep]

well, you might read it that way; that describes someone else to me. The Sodomites were of a different frame of mind imo than most gay people today, personally i see Sodomites better reflected in mega-pastors and the 1%, "feeding themselves without fear," whereas you might be fixated on the sex, although that certainly is a desire that many "feed" as well. But i doubt it is limited to sex.

Regardless, i can't say that i disagree with you, just that i don't think it is as cut and dried as we like to make it. God understands how society makes gay people, and surely knows more than me about agendas of population reduction, say, and (literally) force feeding everyone estrogen analogues (unfermented soy) and their effect on sexuality.

It isn't exactly like we present some shining model of spiritual hetero marriage, anyway; our failure rate is right at 50%, and we fully embrace marriage with a license required etc. so you already know their copy of the Bible reads just like yours, i'd work on the beam and not the splinter is all i mean to say.

i mean how is this trolling

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, you might read it that way; that describes someone else to me. The Sodomites were of a different frame of mind imo than most gay people today, personally i see Sodomites better reflected in mega-pastors and the 1%, "feeding themselves without fear," whereas you might be fixated on the sex, although that certainly is a desire that many "feed" as well. But i doubt it is limited to sex.
Regardless, i can't say that i disagree with you, just that i don't think it is as cut and dried as we like to make it. God understands how society makes gay people, and surely knows more than me about agendas of population reduction, say, and (literally) force feeding everyone estrogen analogues (unfermented soy) and their effect on sexuality.
It isn't exactly like we present some shining model of spiritual hetero marriage, anyway; our failure rate is right at 50%, and we fully embrace marriage with a license required etc. so you already know their copy of the Bible reads just like yours, i'd work on the beam and not the splinter is all i mean to say.
i mean how is this trolling

You have ADMITTED your FIRST LOVE is allah, THE FALSE GOD!

Muslims cannot deny allah, their false god.
Your first love, as with all muslims, is the love for allah, whom the
Apostle Paul called ". . . the god of this world." Yet it's not the God
that CREATED the heavens and the world, even the God of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob. You, and ALL muslims, serve the god of those
who reject the gospel that saves.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

[B]You have ADMITTED your FIRST LOVE is allah,

well, you can say this, that does not make it true, i have as much respect for Islam as any other religion of men. It seems that one may either be a Christian, or seek Christ, and i am hardly alone in this opinion.

you are surrounded by Muslims, right now, and must reflect upon the truth that you have no unrepented sins to accuse one of, if you want to be considered thoughtful, at least. And you don't strike me as a heedless person.