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04-23-2012, 10:20 PM
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Your creation belief
I'm just curious if anyone believes in theisetic evolution. Thought maybe some folks on here that have in the past voiced a belief in a Genesis gap theory concerning the word "day", might also believe in theistic evolution.
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04-23-2012, 11:27 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
I believe that God is the Originator and Creator.
I think this is taught in Genesis.
I think that's all we need to know.
I don't know about the how, when, etc.
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04-23-2012, 11:57 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
can you define creation science?
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04-24-2012, 07:18 AM
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Re: Your creation belief
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
can you define creation science?
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From what I gather...
"Special Creation" (creation science)Refers to God's work of calling the universe and all that is in it into existance out of nothing, and of making complex living organisms out of simple componets as when He formed man from the dust of the ground. A study of the biblical creation accounts indicate that God simply spoke the earth and the universe into existance on the first day, and spent the next 5 days organizing the physical elements to form the sun, stars, plants, animals, and mankind. His creative work was cimaxed by the formation of man out of the "dust of the ground". (Adam)
Theistic Evolutionist:
“Theistic evolutionists claim the Bible teaches that God created the world and humanity, but it does not tell us how He did it. Mixing their interpretation of Scripture with what they consider to be scientific evidence for evolution, theistic evolutionists conclude that God initially began creation, and then He directed and controlled the processes of naturalistic evolution to produce the universe as we know it today. God acted as a kind of ‘impersonal life force inherent in the system.’ He allegedly entered into the process of time on occasion to modify what was developing … Most theistic evolutionists hold to the day-age theory, though some believe the ‘days’ in Genesis are ‘revelatory days’ when God gave revelation about the creation … Theistic evolutionists typically deny the historicity of Adam and Eve (as direct creations of God) in the book of Genesis. They generally argue that at some point in the process of evolution, God took an already-existing higher primate (an ape), modified it, put a soul within it, and transformed it into Adam, in the ‘image of God.’ (God also transformed an existing female higher primate into Eve.) In this view, then, God directly created the spiritual nature of humanity, but the physical nature was a product of evolution.
“Theistic evolutionists recognize that this seems to disagree with the statement in Genesis 2:7 that God created Adam from the dust of the ground, so they reinterpret ‘dust of the ground’ metaphorically to refer to previously existing animals. By taking a non-literal approach to Genesis, theistic evolutionists are able to fit their evolutionist views into it."
(This started thread stemmed from a discussion on another cite having to do with evolution of chloroplast, within conservation and study of plantlife. And in that thread, someone stated that creationism at its base, is an attack on science.)
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04-24-2012, 08:26 AM
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Re: Your creation belief
Ok well it's early, but I read "creation science" and "theistic evolution," and I'm still not sure the diff...one is instantaneous, the other over time? Ty
The dust of the earth?
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04-24-2012, 12:07 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
I would say that creation science would peak my interest more than the rest.
It would be interesting to know how God created complex living organisms out of the dust of the ground.
I fully understand though, that while we are yet living on this earth, anything we learn by ourselves would merely be theory. We may have to wait until we are with God to know exactly how He does it.
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04-24-2012, 12:23 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
I would say that creation science would peak my interest more than the rest.
It would be interesting to know how God created complex living organisms out of the dust of the ground.
I fully understand though, that while we are yet living on this earth, anything we learn by ourselves would merely be theory. We may have to wait until we are with God to know exactly how He does it.
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How about this?
Heb 11
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
It would seem to me that God spoke the world into existence...
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04-24-2012, 01:03 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
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Originally Posted by TGBTG
...It would seem to me that God spoke the world into existence...
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But the element of time is just not viewed the same by God as by us. 14 billion years? No prob.
It. Will. Happen.
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04-24-2012, 02:57 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
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Originally Posted by TGBTG
How about this?
Heb 11
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
It would seem to me that God spoke the world into existence... |
You are absolutely correct TGB. Most of us would accept that easily.
Science seems to have embarked on making a science project on this though, and they seem to be curious as to how God actually made a living human from the elements contained in the dirt that He spoke into existence..like magnesium, copper, iron etc.
It would be interesting to see what they have come up with, although we may never know the tiny details that God put into this when he spoke the worlds into existence until we see God...and if He chose to tell us. However, I am not going to sulk if He doesn't tell us because I would be perfectly content just being with Him. 
Only God can think something, speak it and it becomes so. That is an awesome God wouldn't you say?
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04-24-2012, 03:08 PM
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Re: Your creation belief
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Originally Posted by TGBTG
How about this?
Heb 11
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
It would seem to me that God spoke the world into existence... |
I agree. and the second bolded part of your scripture appears to say we can see how creation was made.
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