Belief in god and the right to homosexuality?

[thephnxman]

"God gave them over to a reprobate mind..."

A [sic] Christian Pastor wrote a column that exemplifies the downward
spiral of the Christian faith and belief in the doctrines of the one true God.
He wrote that he believed in God, but that he approved of the Supreme
Court’s finding on gay marriage. He stated that there is an argument to be
made in support of the Court's ruling to uphold gay marriage and its “equal
rights” provision for all persons.That logic is taking us BACK to the Garden
of Eden, when Eve offered Adam to eat "...of the tree of knowledge of good
and evil...". In eating of the forbidden tree's fruit, Adam and Eve were in fact
embracing and mixing the good with the bad, and the hot with the cold. The
outcome is, of course, becoming lukewarm in our morality! Well, the sin that
is running rampant among us is witness to the fact that we have ALL eaten
of that same fruit; and the pacifist stance of accepting the secular laws while
seemingly proffering faith in God, is testimony to lack of repentance, or at
the very least, an acceptance to live in the land that is fast becoming as Sodom
and Gomorrah. The blatant lies and deceit coming out of the news media, the
television and movies, and the compromising political environment would be
laying waste to Godly moral beliefs and principals which men of the cloth did
once espouse. Indeed, the scriptures have warned us to beware when men
will call good evil, and evil good. And how is that accomplished? By passing
laws in the legislatures that legalize immorality.

It is truly sad that good men have been muzzled by their own personal sin and
have not been able to repent due to their guilt, and thereby unable to voice
the TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus Christ: even the doctrine of His apostles
and prophets. But God is not mocked. As surely as judgment came to Sodom
and Gomorrah, so will it come to the Unite States of America and to the entire
world. They say, "I do not believe in God." But that does not negate God's
righteousness, or His power. And for those who are true Believers: be
strong, be obedient to God's will: for even as the world was condemned by
the righteousness of Noah, so OUR righteousness (even our testimony) will
also justify them that believe and obey. And WE surely will not condemn the
world: but the unbelievers'
rejection of God's righteousness operating in the true Church will condemn
them. "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he that believes
not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the NAME
of the only begotten son of God."

Brothers and Sisters: keep the faith.

[consapente89]

Excellent! There are many areas where personal guilt is silencing the voice of "would be" preachers of righteousness.

[shazeep]

this is what comes of not showing a person love in the first place, not in loving a group of people despite their sin; the difference is subtle, a legal one. And so a spiritual sin manifests in a law. And not the sin of the sinner. hmm.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

this is what comes of not showing a person love in the first place, not in loving a group of people despite their sin; the difference is subtle, a legal one. And so a spiritual sin manifests in a law. And not the sin of the sinner. hmm.

It's content and context . . . and not content alone!

I wrote: "WE surely will not condemn the world: but the unbelievers'
rejection of God's righteousness operating in the true Church will
condemn them(selves)."

Some people DO NOT truly believe in God. They believe (by their
own testimonies) that God erred in choosing Jesus as the ultimate
sacrifice, because Jesus erred in choosing the Ministry. How? By
insisting in the words of Jesus over the words of the apostles!
There is NOT AN IOTA OF CONTRADICTION or DIFFERENCE in the
Lord's and the apostles' doctrine.

If the apostles erred in content/context, then Jesus also erred; and
if the Lord Jesus erred, then the Father erred also. LISTEN UP: if
the Father erred, then He could NOT be God! It's that simple. I am
of the persuasion that the apostles followed ALL the Lord's doctrine
FULLY and WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION, because Jesus followed the
Father's mandate in the same manner: else Jesus could NOT be
"...the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."

SHAZEEP: if you would follow the teaching of the Lord THROUGH the
Apostle Paul, you would do well. Now this:

"He who believes in Him is NOT condemned; but he that believes
not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the
NAME of the only begotten son of God."

[Waggles]

2Thessalonians 1:7-10
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

No amount of human denial nor unbelief can alter the terrifying truth that Jesus will return, and as God he will judge both the living and the dead.
The unGodly can scoff all they want, but it only confirms their blindness and their sin.
Let us preach the gospel in the hope that some may believe unto the saving of their souls.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Waggles

2Thessalonians 1:7-10
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

(1) No amount of human denial nor unbelief can alter the terrifying truth that Jesus will return, and as God he will judge both the living and the dead.
(2) The unGodly can scoff all they want, but it only confirms their blindness and their sin.
(3) Let us preach the gospel in the hope that some may believe unto the saving of their souls.

AMEN

(1) Yes . . . terrifying to them that believe not; but to us that believe,
we will receive HIM as a child does his father;

(2) It's too sad: and that's how we should see their scoffs . . .

(3) Yes, Beloved, the gospel that saves should always be our main and
principal goal. Now this, "Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast,
unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye
know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

There is NOT AN IOTA OF CONTRADICTION or DIFFERENCE in the
Lord's and the apostles' doctrine.

i would certainly not disagree, but i would suggest that the Apostles' Words that are taken so legally be understood more spiritually, else you lose credibility when Love your neighbor fulfills all the law and prophets is made into some vain attempt to follow the law or attempt salvation by works, to negate the Word of Christ.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i would certainly not disagree, but i would suggest that the Apostles' Words that are taken so legally be understood more spiritually, else you lose credibility when Love your neighbor fulfills all the law and prophets is made into some vain attempt to follow the law or attempt salvation by works, to negate the Word of Christ.

You "would certainly not disagree", and then you disagree!

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i would certainly not disagree, but i would suggest that the Apostles' Words that are taken so legally be understood more spiritually, else you lose credibility when Love your neighbor fulfills all the law and prophets is made into some vain attempt to follow the law or attempt salvation by works, to negate the Word of Christ.

You "would certainly not disagree", and then you disagree!

[shazeep]

If Christ is negated, how can i not? If you fulfill Paul while ignoring Christ, what have you done?