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Re: God the Father
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Is God the Father of all spirits?
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I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.
it is we that personifies them
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04-22-2016, 10:13 PM
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Re: God the Father
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I form the light and create darkness; I make peace and create evil: I am the LORD that does all this.
it is we that personifies them
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Did God create you?
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04-23-2016, 09:46 AM
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Re: God the Father
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Did God create you?
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that is my belief, so categorically yes, depending upon how you define "you" there. It might be argued that my earthly parents created me, also, if one judges by sight.
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04-23-2016, 04:08 PM
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Re: God the Father
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that is my belief, so categorically yes, depending upon how you define "you" there. It might be argued that my earthly parents created me, also, if one judges by sight.
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Unless you are begotten by the Spirit of God
you are not born of God.
Just as someone adopted by their non biological parents
are not born of the same genetics as they.
Is this true or false?
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04-23-2016, 06:30 PM
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Re: God the Father
well, it seems that now we are embarked upon a semantics discussion, which wadr is what religion always seems to devolve into. So, if created and born are two different things, true, and if not, false. Is there a point?
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04-24-2016, 07:50 PM
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Re: God the Father
All those who are Fathered by God
have the same exact Spirit as God.
Hence why Jesus said to them...
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
They are the Spirit of God.
All those who are fathered by the devil
have the same exact spirit as the devil.
They are the spirit of the devil.
Hence why Jesus said to them...
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
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04-25-2016, 08:36 AM
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Re: God the Father
we need to understand the role of free will in this scenario; Christ called Peter both "satan," and "Rock."
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04-25-2016, 12:00 PM
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Re: God the Father
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we need to understand the role of free will in this scenario; Christ called Peter both "satan," and "Rock."
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He called Peter... Satan not satan.
And if you do not know the difference do not ask me.
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04-25-2016, 02:31 PM
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Re: God the Father
this is on purpose, to express "unseen one." Lucifer is a name, satan is not.
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04-25-2016, 03:36 PM
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Re: God the Father
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this is on purpose, to express "unseen one." Lucifer is a name, satan is not.
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Is Satan a man?
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