ILG - Vaccine Hysteria

[n david]

My daughter was released from the hospital yesterday. About an hour after we got home, the hospital called my wife and said the last culture came back positive for UTI, so we are supposed to pick up more antibiotics to continue treatment at home. Praying this passes soon.

[n david]

A post I read from an non-vax group on FB:

"Our government has been wrong many times throughout history. Some mistakes were blatant lies, other were honest mistakes. Our government imprisoned Japanese Americans during World War II. Our government said separate but equal was ok. Our government said eggs were bad, then good, then bad again. Our government said cocain and heroin were okay at one point. Our government has made many mistakes, these are just a few. So my question of the day is this: why do we think our government is 100% correct when it comes to our health? They push surgeries, vaccines, abortions and other medical procedures on us, and we just take their word as absolute truth. As a society, it is our responsibility to be a little cautious of what the government dictates in our individual lives. If we don't, we will become socialist or worst. Germany didn't question Hitler, Russia didn't question Stalin and look what happened. If we allow government to control every aspect of our life, then we have already lost. Think about that the next time the government tells you what is best for you or your kids. A better choice would be to 100% trust God and try to do what He tells us as much as we can. We will probably fall short of what God expects, but we will achieve much more than we thought was ever possible."

[ILG]

So, how are you feeling about all this now, ndavid? What is your wife thinking? (If you are uncomfortable sharing, I understand) I am just wondering how this has affected you and your future decisions. Are you going to forego all vaccinations in the future? Weigh each one? What are your thoughts?

[n david]

Originally Posted by ILG

So, how are you feeling about all this now, ndavid? What is your wife thinking? (If you are uncomfortable sharing, I understand) I am just wondering how this has affected you and your future decisions. Are you going to forego all vaccinations in the future? Weigh each one? What are your thoughts?

I'm upset that I didn't stick with my initial thought that we wouldn't vaccinate because of the toxins and side effects.

I'm also upset that even though we decided to vaccinate, I didn't have it done over a period of time, instead of doing them all at once. I've seen some good ideas regarding schedules and types of vaccines given together or in the same month and I wish I would have spaced them out.

I'm worried. Haven't slept well at night, because I keep checking on them to make sure they're okay. I've re-read the packing inserts and ingredients for these vaccines and feel awful that I allowed all of that to be injected within a matter of seconds.

Honestly, I've prayed more and harder the past weekend than I have in a long time.

I try not to say much about it around my wife. I showed her the NIH report I linked in an earlier post, and she made the comment to my sister that I was trying to make her feel bad about her telling me to go ahead and vaccinate, since our 5 year old received the same shots and was fine. That made me feel awful as well. I don't fault her at all. Our 5 year old daughter and one twin is fine, the other had a reaction. It's not my wife's fault, it's not the Pediatrician's fault, it's not God's fault...it's just our bodies are different and respond differently to the toxins. I do blame the vaccine, even though the Dr told my wife it can't possibly be linked, since she received the vaccine around 4:15pm and the infection was found around 12:30am or 1am -- IE, not enough time passed for it to be the vaccine. It's just too much a coincidence that she was fine until after she received the shots. I could be wrong, it's just an odd coincidence.

As far as any future vaccinations, our 5 year old hasn't received her MMR and won't. That is one vaccine that I don't want any of our children to get, and my wife supports that. Honestly, I'm back to being against them all right now. Definitely if we do decide to complete the 4 and 6 month shots, as we did our other daughter, they will be spaced apart and never multiple in one visit.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by n david

I'm upset that I didn't stick with my initial thought that we wouldn't vaccinate because of the toxins and side effects.

I'm also upset that even though we decided to vaccinate, I didn't have it done over a period of time, instead of doing them all at once. I've seen some good ideas regarding schedules and types of vaccines given together or in the same month and I wish I would have spaced them out.

I'm worried. Haven't slept well at night, because I keep checking on them to make sure they're okay. I've re-read the packing inserts and ingredients for these vaccines and feel awful that I allowed all of that to be injected within a matter of seconds.

Honestly, I've prayed more and harder the past weekend than I have in a long time.

I try not to say much about it around my wife. I showed her the NIH report I linked in an earlier post, and she made the comment to my sister that I was trying to make her feel bad about her telling me to go ahead and vaccinate, since our 5 year old received the same shots and was fine. That made me feel awful as well. I don't fault her at all. Our 5 year old daughter and one twin is fine, the other had a reaction. It's not my wife's fault, it's not the Pediatrician's fault, it's not God's fault...it's just our bodies are different and respond differently to the toxins. I do blame the vaccine, even though the Dr told my wife it can't possibly be linked, since she received the vaccine around 4:15pm and the infection was found around 12:30am or 1am -- IE, not enough time passed for it to be the vaccine. It's just too much a coincidence that she was fine until after she received the shots. I could be wrong, it's just an odd coincidence.

As far as any future vaccinations, our 5 year old hasn't received her MMR and won't. That is one vaccine that I don't want any of our children to get, and my wife supports that. Honestly, I'm back to being against them all right now. Definitely if we do decide to complete the 4 and 6 month shots, as we did our other daughter, they will be spaced apart and never multiple in one visit.

I think those are some good thoughts. Your wife is probably just stressed out right now. Maybe you guys can discuss it later on when you guys get some rest and the big trial is past. Sorry you are going through this and thanks for sharing. We believe my son has aspergers and I sometimes wonder if it is connected but we will never know.

[Esaias]

http://thinktwice.com/secret.htm


"In 1986, Congress officially acknowledged the reality of vaccine-caused injuries and death by creating and passing The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (Public Law 99-660). The safety reform portion of this law requires doctors to provide parents with information about the benefits and risks of childhood vaccines prior to vaccination, and to report vaccine reactions to federal health officials. Doctors are required by law to report suspected cases of vaccine damage. To simplify and centralize this legal requisite, federal health officials established the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) -- operated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Ideally, doctors would abide by this federal law and report adverse events following the administration of a vaccine. However, the FDA recently acknowledged that 90 percent of doctors do not report vaccine reactions. They are choosing to subvert this law by claiming the adverse event was, in their opinion, not related to the shot. In fact, every year between 12,000 and 14,000 reports of adverse reactions to vaccines are made to the FDA (data initially accessible only through the Freedom of Information Act). These figures include hospitalizations, irreversible brain damage, and hundreds of deaths. Considering that these numbers may represent just 10 percent, the true figures could be as high as 140,000 adverse events annually. However, even this figure could be conservative. According to Dr. David Kessler, former head of the Food and Drug Administration, "Only about 1 percent of serious events [adverse drug reactions] are reported to the FDA." Thus, it is entirely possible that millions of people are adversely affected by mandatory vaccines every year."

[Esaias]

http://sanevax.org/all-the-vaccines-...t-one-of-them/


"“The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination” – Dr. Robert Bell, once Vice President International Society for Cancer Research at the British Cancer Hospital"


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"Who is saying the vaccines are contaminated?
None other than the (now deceased) head of vaccines at Merck, Dr. Maurice Hillerman, who on camera admitted that Merck’s Hepatitis B vaccines, contaminated with a virus, caused the AIDS epidemic in the US. He went on to say that all of Merck’s vaccines are contaminated with cancer and other viruses. (The US government has conceded the HEB B vaccine causes Lupus. That vaccine is mandated for every infant in the US on the day of birth, and is associated with MS as well.)"


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" Perhaps the highest scientific authority saying vaccines are contaminated is Garth Nicolson. He is a cell biologist and editor of the Journal of Clinical and Experimental Metastasis, and the Journal of Cellular Biochemistry. He is one of the most cited scientists in the world, having published over 600 medical and scientific peer-reviewed papers, edited over 14 books, and served on the editorial boards of 28 medical and scientific journals. He is not just saying that vaccines are contaminated with mycoplasma but is warning the US that they are. Nicolson goes further and says that we are all being damaged by them and contracting chronic degenerative diseases that."

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https://childhealthsafety.wordpress....-causes-lupus/

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

http://thinktwice.com/secret.htm


"In 1986, Congress officially acknowledged the reality of vaccine-caused injuries and death by creating and passing The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (Public Law 99-660). The safety reform portion of this law requires doctors to provide parents with information about the benefits and risks of childhood vaccines prior to vaccination, and to report vaccine reactions to federal health officials. Doctors are required by law to report suspected cases of vaccine damage. To simplify and centralize this legal requisite, federal health officials established the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) -- operated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Ideally, doctors would abide by this federal law and report adverse events following the administration of a vaccine. However, the FDA recently acknowledged that 90 percent of doctors do not report vaccine reactions. They are choosing to subvert this law by claiming the adverse event was, in their opinion, not related to the shot. In fact, every year between 12,000 and 14,000 reports of adverse reactions to vaccines are made to the FDA (data initially accessible only through the Freedom of Information Act). These figures include hospitalizations, irreversible brain damage, and hundreds of deaths. Considering that these numbers may represent just 10 percent, the true figures could be as high as 140,000 adverse events annually. However, even this figure could be conservative. According to Dr. David Kessler, former head of the Food and Drug Administration, "Only about 1 percent of serious events [adverse drug reactions] are reported to the FDA." Thus, it is entirely possible that millions of people are adversely affected by mandatory vaccines every year."

I called the Pediatrician's office to request the vaccine info to report the high fever as an allergic reaction to the vaccine. The Pediatrician called me back and corrected me: "I don't like your terminology that your daughter had an 'allergic reaction.' She had a normal reaction to the vaccine as outlined in the possible side effects. Those are normal, not allergic reactions."

He wasn't very happy.

Also, he gave some more info and said there was e-coli present in her urine - which apparently is common with UTI. Because of that, he said, it's more likely there was contamination somehow -- either with how they inserted the catheter or possibly even a poopy diaper. We take care to wipe down and never up when cleaning them. But I can see where contamination could happen. That information makes me believe it wasn't the vaccine which caused the infection.

Question:
I was going to submit a report on VAERS; however, since I don't believe the vaccine caused the infection, and since "low grade" fevers are listed as a possible side effect, should I still report the 101.7 degree fever?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by n david

I called the Pediatrician's office to request the vaccine info to report the high fever as an allergic reaction to the vaccine. The Pediatrician called me back and corrected me: "I don't like your terminology that your daughter had an 'allergic reaction.' She had a normal reaction to the vaccine as outlined in the possible side effects. Those are normal, not allergic reactions."

He wasn't very happy.

Also, he gave some more info and said there was e-coli present in her urine - which apparently is common with UTI. Because of that, he said, it's more likely there was contamination somehow -- either with how they inserted the catheter or possibly even a poopy diaper. We take care to wipe down and never up when cleaning them. But I can see where contamination could happen. That information makes me believe it wasn't the vaccine which caused the infection.

Question:
I was going to submit a report on VAERS; however, since I don't believe the vaccine caused the infection, and since "low grade" fevers are listed as a possible side effect, should I still report the 101.7 degree fever?

Why don't you talk to some organizations that deal with reporting and see what they think? You could talk to both pro and anti-vaccine groups, put together the information you feel is important and make your decision that way?

My take on what your doctor said...I would think to myself "is being hospitalized a "normal" response to a vaccine?"

Please let us know what you decide. Or even discuss it here.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

Why don't you talk to some organizations that deal with reporting and see what they think? You could talk to both pro and anti-vaccine groups, put together the information you feel is important and make your decision that way?

My take on what your doctor said...I would think to myself "is being hospitalized a "normal" response to a vaccine?"

Please let us know what you decide. Or even discuss it here.