Violent Islam

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

We all know you believe this. Your beliefs are firm and fixed and we also know that you have never, ever in your life stepped foot in a Muslim country nor do you know any Muslims nor have you ever been to a Mosque and directly asked them what they believe. This of course makes you, in your own mind, a self-professed expert on the subject.

You never saw a bigoted, opinionated, stubborn, narrow-minded, self-conceited, almighty mean man in your life but he had stuck in one place since he was born and thought God made the world and dyspepsia and bile for his especial comfort and satisfaction.

Mark Twain - The American Abroad speech, 1868

I know that Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth, it's proven just about every week. You on the other hand will simply stick your head in the sand, pretending that religious violence isn't common within Islam, ignoring the fact that sunni muslims regularly kill and maim shia muslims while shia muslims regularly kill and maim sunni muslims. This is very very common within the religion of Islam because it's inherently such a violent religion. When you pull your head out of the sand you close you eyes to this violence within Islam while yelling that Islam is a religion of peace. It's not. Again, simply take a map...find the religious violence on the map....notice what religion is the source of that violence. It's almost always either sunni muslims or shia muslims killing, maiming, killing within Islamic sects, bombing the mosques of the opposing Islamic religious sect. When they tire of killing each other, they turn to non-muslims and kill and maim them. Over and over and over and over.

Your attempt to promote Islam as a religion of peace fails miserably when your denial of Islamic violence is simply compared to reality.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Actually you did. You introduced France and Crime rates, the issue was how Muslims there created no go places for non- Muslims. You claimed it was to reduce Crime but that is not true.

Second since YOU raised the issue of France and Crime, not me, I pointed out many of those crimes are committed by Muslims, now you've got another excuse and all the while not one shred of evidence you post exonerates Islam of being a violent religion...misdirecting to secular nations is a red herring

Did I? "they probably want safe neighborhoods" LOOKS like simple speculation to me and any further interpretation beyond this would in turn be speculation on your part.

But anyway, you are correct that putting Muslims into separate housing projects with substandard services is segregation. Kind of you to bring it up but segregating Muslims from the rest of French society followed by some complaint on your part that "Muslims in France are segregated from the rest of French society sort of looks and sounds like maybe the French, not the Muslims, achieved what they started out to do.

duh

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Its a red herring because the topic is Islam not national crime rates. "You too" is not a valid defense.

People in America aren't killing in the name of Jesus. The don't shout "God is great" before robbing a liquor store.

"you too?" You wish. The numbers say you're worse. The topic is how violent Islam is which means how violent Muslims are. The answer is not as violent as Christianity is and not as violent as Christians are.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

And yet sunni and shia muslims kill the men, women and children of the opposing Islamic sects by the thousands every year.

You're denying reality. Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth today. You can't find any religion today which has more violence associated with it than Islam.

Your record has a scratch

So now I am curious. Just how many sunnis and shias murder each other each year? "By the thousands" really sounds like a lot and you could probably make a good point by determining and posting just how many.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Did I? "they probably want safe neighborhoods" LOOKS like simple speculation to me and any further interpretation beyond this would in turn be speculation on your part.

But anyway, you are correct that putting Muslims into separate housing projects with substandard services is segregation. Kind of you to bring it up but segregating Muslims from the rest of French society followed by some complaint on your part that "Muslims in France are segregated from the rest of French society sort of looks and sounds like maybe the French, not the Muslims, achieved what they started out to do.

duh

Wrong. Read the story. The muslims move into an area and force non-muslims out and impose sharia making the area a no go place for non-muslims.

You are doing exactly what I said so called moderates do by not opposing such actions and acting as if there is no problem at all.

This is what makes Islam a danger because most Muslims condone these actions by the way they deal with these issues.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

"you too?" You wish The numbers say you're worse.

See? The topic is Islam and our "moderate" friend refuses to condemn what goes on but instead gives tacit approval by the "you too" logical fallacy or denying facts or making excuses for the violence.

Most Muslims I encounter are this way. Oh of course they do not commit they physical acts themselves but where do you think the pool of those becoming violent come from?

From the sympathizers

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Your record has a scratch

So now I am curious. Just how many sunnis and shias murder each other each year? "By the thousands" really sounds like a lot and you could probably make a good point by determining and posting just how many.

The point is one that you, as a typical muslim, will not face....that Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth. You don't deal in reality, you deal in evasion and denial. Check out your newspaper throughout the year and you'll see the killing and maiming of men, women and children in the sunni and shia religious sects of Islam.

Of course, you as a muslim, aren't honest enough to do that. I've found that's typical for most muslims when it comes to Islamic violence, especially the violence between the sunni and shia religious sects of Islam.

Why not get your map. Find the areas of religious violence. What religion is almost always at the center of that religious violence? Islam.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Wrong. Read the story. The muslims move into an area and force non-muslims out and impose sharia making the area a no go place for non-muslims.

You are doing exactly what I said so called moderates do by not opposing such actions and acting as if there is no problem at all.

This is what makes Islam a danger because most Muslims condone these actions by the way they deal with these issues.

UM yeah thats not what the book says BUT hey a news story trumps facts every time!

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The point is one that you, as a typical muslim, will not face....that Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth. You don't deal in reality, you deal in evasion and denial. Check out your newspaper throughout the year and you'll see the killing and maiming of men, women and children in the sunni and shia religious sects of Islam.

Of course, you as a muslim, aren't honest enough to do that. I've found that's typical for most muslims when it comes to Islamic violence, especially the violence between the sunni and shia religious sects of Islam.

Why not get your map. Find the areas of religious violence. What religion is almost always at the center of that religious violence? Islam.

Show us. I have made my points and I will help you out.

How many were "religious" and how many were STARTED by MUSLIM countries? Example: The Boer wars were kicked off to exterminate Muslims in Europe. That one was religious.

Afghanistan war 2001 - 2012
Libyan Civil War 2011 - 2012
Colombia Govt vs Guerillas Farc and ELN 1984 - 2012
Waziristan conflict 2004 - 2012
Northern Mali Conflict 2012 - 2012
Somalia Civil War 1990 - 2012
Abyei Conflict 2011 - 2012
Mexican Drug War 2006 - 2012
Kivu Conflict 2006 - 2012
Israel vs Palestine 1948 - 2012
Syrian civil war 2011 - 2012
Iraqi Insurgency 2004 - 2012
Burma Govt vs Guerillas 1983 - 2012
Al Quaeda vs USA and allies 2001 - 2012
Darfur Conflict in Sudan 2003 - 2010
India vs Pakistan, Kashmir Dispute 1989 - 2009
Sri Lankan Civil War 1983 - 2009
Democratic Rep of Congo vs Rebels 1998 - 2006
Russia vs Chechnyan Secessionists 1994 - 2006
2006 Lebanon War 2006 - 2006
Burundi Tutsi Govt vs Hutu Rebels 1991 - 2005
Civil War in Côte d Ivoire 2001 - 2005
Nepal Civil War 1996 - 2005
Algeria Govt vs Islamic rebels, GIA 1990 - 2005
Ugandan Civil War 1987 - 2005
Turkey Gvt vs Kurdistan Guerilla PPK 1984 - 2004
Senegal Civil War 1982 - 2003
Sudan Govt vs Rebels 1983 - 2003
Indonesia Gvt vs Aceh Liberation movement 1989 - 2003
Philippines Guerrilla CPP vs Govt 1969 - 2003
Iraq vs US led coalition 2003 - 2003
Philippines Govt vs Mindanao Guerilla 1972 - 2003
Chad Civil War 1982 - 2002
Angolan Gvt vs UNITA Guerilla 1975 - 2000
Iraq vs Shi’i opposition (SCIRI) 1982 - 2000
Afghanistan Civil War 1978 - 2000
Iran vs Muhajedin 1991 - 2000
Sierra Leone Govt vs Rebels 1994 - 2000
Eritrea vs Ethiopia 1998 - 2000
Indian Govt vs Punjab 1985 - 2000
Congo Brazzaville Civil War 1997 - 1999
Guinea Bissau Coup 1998 - 1999
Peruvian Gvt vs Sendero Luminoso and MRTA 1980 - 1999
Yugoslavia vs UN and UCK Guerilla 1997 - 1999
East Timorese Guerilla vs Indonesioan Govt 1976 - 1999
Cambodian Govt vs Khmer Rouge 1979 - 1998
Tajikistan Govt vs Opposition 1992 - 1998
Liberia Civil War 1989 - 1997
Iraq vs Kurdistan (KDP/PUK) 1975 - 1996
Bosnian Govt vs Serbian Insurgents 1992 - 1995
Guatemalan Govt vs Guerilla 1982 - 1995
Northern Ireland, The Troubles 1969 - 1994
Rwanda, Hutus vs Tutsis 1990 - 1994
Nagorno-Karabakh War 1988 - 1994
Azerbajan vs Soviet Union 1990 - 1994
Yemen Gvt vs Secessionists 1994 - 1994
Georgian Civil War 1991 - 1993
South Africa, Political Violence 1989 - 1993
El Salvador Gvt vs FMLN Guerrillas 1979 - 1992
Mozambique Govt vs Guerilla 1979 - 1992
Yugoslav Gvt vs Croatia 1991 - 1992
Western Sahara War 1975 - 1991
Ethiopia vs Eritrea 1974 - 1991
Tigray rebels TPLF vs Ethiopian Gvt 1978 - 1991
First Gulf War 1990 - 1991
Lebanese Civil War 1975 - 1990
Nicaragua Govt vs Contras 1982 - 1990
Chile: Coup d etat and dirty war 1973 - 1990
Sri Lanka Govt vs S Nationalists 1987 - 1989
Namibia vs South Africa 1966 - 1988
Uganda Civil War 1980 - 1988
Iran vs Iraq 1980 - 1988
Burundi, Tutsi Gvt vs Hutu 1988 - 1988
Sinovietnamese War 1985 - 1987
S Yemen Coup 1986 - 1986
The Maitatsine Risings in Nigeria 1980 - 1984
Guatemalan Govt vs Guerilla 1978 - 1984
Ethiopia vs Somali Rebels 1976 - 1983
Argentina's Dirty War 1976 - 1983
Syrian Govt vs Sunni Fundamentalists 1982 - 1982
Iran vs Muhajedin e-Khalq 1981 - 1982
Falklands War 1982 - 1982
Nigerian rebellion 1980 - 1981
Philippine Gvt. vs Mindanao Guerilla 1972 - 1980
MIlitary Govt vs Communist Guerilla 1968 - 1980
Vietnam vs Cambodia 1975 - 1979
Nicaraguan Gvt vs Sandinistas 1978 - 1979
Uganda vs Tanzania 1978 - 1979
Iranian Revolution 1978 - 1979
Rhodesia Guerillas vs Govt 1972 - 1979
Sinovietnamese War 1979 - 1979
Cambodian holocaust 1975 - 1979
Ethiopia vs Somalia 1977 - 1978
Pakistani Govt vs Guerilla 1973 - 1977
Vietnam War 1961 - 1975
Cambodian Civil War 1970 - 1975
Chittagong uprising India 1975 - 1975
Angolan War of Independence 1961 - 1975
Mozambique War of Independence 1964 - 1975
Guinea Bissau War of Independence 1962 - 1974
Turko Cypriot War 1974 - 1974
Laos Govt vs Vietnamese Guerilla 1963 - 1973
Yom Kippur War 1973 - 1973
Sudan Govt vs Guerilla 1963 - 1972
Guatemala military coup 1966 - 1972
Burundi, Hutu Revolt 1972 - 1972
Sri Lanka, Nationalists vs Govt 1971 - 1971
Bangladesh War 1971 - 1971
Jordan vs Palestine Guerrilas 1970 - 1970
Nigerian Civil War 1967 - 1970
Israel vs Egypt 1969 - 1970
North Yemen Civil War 1962 - 1969
Football War Honduras vs Salvador 1969 - 1969
China Culture Revolution 1967 - 1968
The Six Day War 1967 - 1967
Uganda Gvt. vs secessionists 1966 - 1966
Congo Govt vs Katanga Rebels 1960 - 1965
Vietnam civil war 1960 - 1965
Dominican Rep. Coup 1965 - 1965
2 nd Kashmir War 1965 - 1965
Rwanda Civil War 1963 - 1964
Iraq vs Kurdistan 1960 - 1963
Algerian Civil War 1962 - 1963
Algerian War of Independece 1954 - 1962
Laos Civil War 1960 - 1962
Sino-Indian War 1962 - 1962
La Violencia 1946 - 1962
Cameroon War of Independence 1955 - 1960
Indonesian dissidents vs Govt 1956 - 1960
Cuban revolution 1958 - 1959
Iraq civil war 1959 - 1959
Tibetan Rebellion 1956 - 1959
lebanon 1958 - 1958
Malayan Civil War 1948 - 1957
Moroccan War of Independence 1953 - 1956
Kenya, Mau-Mau vs UK 1952 - 1956
Hungarian Revolt 1956 - 1956
Sinai War 1956 - 1956
Argentina, Army vs Peron 1955 - 1955
Costa rica vs Nicaragua 1955 - 1955
First Indochina War Comm. vs France 1945 - 1954
Guatemalan rebels vs Govt 1954 - 1954
Tunisian war of Independence 1952 - 1954
Philippines, Huk rebels vs Govt 1946 - 1954
Korean War 1950 - 1953
Indonesian Govt vs Darul islam 1953 - 1953
Bolivian Civil War 1952 - 1952
Burman Rebellion 1948 - 1951
2nd Sinotibetan War 1950 - 1951
Chinese Civil War 1945 - 1950
Arab-Israeli War 1948 - 1949
Greece Civil War 1944 - 1949
1st Kashmir War 1947 - 1949
North Yemen, Rebels vs Govt. 1948 - 1948
Indian civil war 1947 - 1948
Costa Rican Coup 1948 - 1948
Madagascar Rebellion 1947 - 1948
Paraguayan Gvt.,vs Rebels 1947 - 1947
Taiwanese revolt 1947 - 1947
Indonesian Independence 1945 - 1946
World War II 1939 - 1945
Sino-Japanese War 1937 - 1941
Franco-Thai War 1940 - 1941
The Winter War in Finland 1939 - 1940
Spanish Civil War 1936 - 1939
The battle of Khalkhin Gol 1939 - 1939
India vs UK rebellion 1936 - 1938
Changkufeng Incident 1938 - 1938
Italo-Ethiopian War 1935 - 1936
Communists vs Koumintang 1930 - 1935
Chaco War 1931 - 1935
Spanish socialists vs Govt 1934 - 1934
Austrian Putsch 1934 - 1934
Soviet vs Turkestan 1931 - 1934
Manchurian War 1931 - 1933
Sansui (Senussi), Lybia vs Italy 1920 - 1932
El Salvador, La Mataza 1932 - 1932
Brazilian Revolt 1932 - 1932
French Equatorial Africa 1927 - 1931
Uprisings in French Indochine 1930 - 1931
The Cristero War 1926 - 1930
Kuomintang vs warlords 1929 - 1930
Afghanistan 1928 - 1929
Sino-Soviet war 1929 - 1929
Northern Expedition 1926 - 1928
Kuomintang vs islamic rebels 1928 - 1928
Druze revolt 1925 - 1927
Third Rif War 1920 - 1926
Afghan rebels vs govt 1924 - 1925
Honduras Coup 1924 - 1924
Armenian Massacre Aftermath 1919 - 1923
Russian Revolution 1917 - 1922
India vs UK rebellion 1921 - 1922
Greco Turkish War 1919 - 1922
Ireland freestaters vs Irregulars 1921 - 1922
Turkish War of Independence 1919 - 1921
Iraq vs UK 1920 - 1921
Easter rising 1916 - 1921
Mexican Revolution 1910 - 1920
Hungary Civil War 1919 - 1920
Polish-Soviet War 1919 - 1920
Franco-Syrian war 1920 - 1920
Polish–Soviet War 1919 - 1920
Amritsar massacre 1918 - 1919
Hungarian–Romanian War of 1919 1919 - 1919
Third Anglo-Afghan War 1919 - 1919
Finnish Civil War 1918 - 1918
Canton vs Beijing 1917 - 1918
Armenian Genocide 1915 - 1918
World War I 1914 - 1918
Spanish Army vs Rebels Morocco 1916 - 1917
Bandits vs Chinas Govt 1914 - 1914
Kuomintang vs Chinese Army 1913 - 1913
1st Balkan War 1912 - 1913
2nd Balkan War 1913 - 1913
Paraguay Coups 1911 - 1912
Italo-Turkish War 1911 - 1912
Tibetan war 1911 - 1912
Chinese Revolution 1911 - 1911
The second Rif War 1909 - 1910
Iran 1908 - 1909
Morocco unrest 1907 - 1908
4th Central American war 1907 - 1907
Romania 1907 - 1907
3d Central American war 1906 - 1906
Maji Maji revolt 1905 - 1906
Russian Revolution 1905 1905 - 1906
Zulu Rebellion 1906 - 1906
Somali rebellion 1899 - 1905
Russo-Japanese war 1904 - 1905
Southwest African Revolt 1904 - 1905
Uruguay 1904 - 1904
The War of a Thousand Days 1899 - 1903
Ilinden Uprising 1903 - 1903
Philippine insurrection 1899 - 1902
Boer war 1899 - 1902
The Boxer Revolt 1900 - 1900

You too Prax. Show me the "sword of Islam" spreading. It is not (I) but you who "live in the middle ages" because half of these wars are throwing off European Christian colonialism

[Pliny]

"CAIR-Washington Member Omar Abdelbadie Arrested for Raping Twelve-Year-Old Girl"Answering Muslims, June 20, 2013 (thanks to David Wood)

Omar Abdelbadie was born in Egypt, but has lived in the United States for the past eight years. He is currently studying Neurobiology at the University of Washington. In his free time, he volunteers with CAIR-Washington, promotes interfaith unity as Vice-President of Bridges(the University of Washington's Interfaith Council), and walks the streets looking for little girls to ply with drugs and take back to his apartment. The only silver lining to this dark cloud of perversion is Abdelbadie's unnamed friend, who called police after realizing that a sex-crime had just been committed. (If this friend happens to be Muslim, I tip my hat to him, for living a far better life than some of his Muslim brothers across the Atlantic have been living.)

Of course, perverts can come from all sorts of backgrounds. The point here, however, is that Muslim preachers keep telling us that Islam is the solution to Western immorality. With so many recent cases of Muslim pedophiles targeting little (non-Muslim) girls, I'd say that Muslim preachers have lost the right to tell us what Islam can do for the West. When a religion glorifies a man who had sex with a nine-year-old girl, allows its adherents to rape female captives, and calls anyone who rejects the religion "the worst of creatures" (Qur'an 98:6), it will never benefit societies with large populations of unbelievers.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ssed-prov.html



I guess it was the 12 year old girls fault...
According to this Muslim pervert anyway.