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10-21-2012, 07:38 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I doubt that TB will start a church in tn, if he feels led to pastor again. Buy I can tell you that if there was any wrong doing- And he repented.. Who am I to decide whether he should or should not pastor. The bible says God's callings are without repentance...and If the church were in my state. I'd happily attend. From what I've known of him in the past, he's a great man...has done a lot for a lot of people....nothing's been proven.
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In answer to the first bolded quote I hope you are a person God has given a good brain with common sense and are not naive.
I am afraid the second bolded part answers the first in a sad way.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-21-2012, 07:50 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Thank you but it's just my way of trying to be thoroughly understood cause I hate being misunderstood. Hmmm maybe that'll be my signature tag line.
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We all hate being misunderstood.
The prudent will question a statement.
The critical will attack the statement.
I suspect that all of us have been in both modes at different times in our lives. 
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10-21-2012, 08:36 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
I question the spiritual integrity of a person suggesting this forum is exactly what is needed for this situation when the Bible clearly states to avoid with drama. One of my mentors said in these types of conflict, both sides are probably lying. Chances are the truth is different from perception.
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10-21-2012, 08:42 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I question the spiritual integrity of a person suggesting this forum is exactly what is needed for this
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10-21-2012, 09:44 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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In answer to the first bolded quote I hope you are a person God has given a good brain with common sense and are not naive.
I am afraid the second bolded part answers the first in a sad way.
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I have a batchelor's and two masters. I've got a pretty good head on my shoulders. Some Apostolics are the most judgmental, arrorgant.... Kick em' while they're down, people that I have ever met. It goes against everything we were ever taught we should be. Very sad.
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10-21-2012, 10:17 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I have a batchelor's and two masters. I've got a pretty good head on my shoulders. Some Apostolics are the most judgmental, arrorgant.... Kick em' while they're down, people that I have ever met. It goes against everything we were ever taught we should be. Very sad.
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I don't doubt your educational credentials. We clearly disagree on the subject of totally ignoring massive moral failures where people live double lives for an extended period of time.
You are just looking for a quick "I am sorry and have repented" then will put the person immediately back in leadership and follow the person with full confidence.
I don't find anywhere in the Bible it tells us to do that. Forgiving has nothing to do with forgetting. The Bible is quite clear on the requirements for church leadership.
As I have said repeatedly I will gladly fellowship with, love, and be friends with a preacher who has failed. I will also declare him a brother and not question his salvation. However doing all of that in no way means I will or should accept him back into a leadership position without an extended time of proving himself trustworthy.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-21-2012, 10:27 PM
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As I have said repeatedly I will gladly fellowship with, love, and be friends with a preacher who has failed. I will also declare him a brother and not question his salvation. However doing all of that in no way means I will or should accept him back into a leadership position without an extended time of proving himself trustworthy.
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Some people are... nevermind. Great thoughts. Yea and amen.
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10-21-2012, 10:28 PM
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Credentials mean NOTHING on Ahf!!! Just ask Boo-ra!
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10-21-2012, 10:57 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Credentials mean NOTHING on Ahf!!! Just ask Boo-ra!
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They Sirtunly dunt mak sumwon a butter speeler
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-21-2012, 11:36 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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They Sirtunly dunt mak sumwon a butter speeler
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What do you know? You don't have a batchelor's degree!
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