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Old 10-02-2012, 08:13 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

Inquiring minds want to know, but it's none of our business. Thoughts and prayers goes to the congregation, and the leadership. Prayers for the pastor who resigned also.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:17 PM
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Well, there's this. Wow.

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Old 10-02-2012, 08:20 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

Here we go again.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:25 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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Wow! That update on wikipedia was wicked fast. Maybe a board member is a wikipedia contributor. When I started this thread I had absolutely no idea of why the sudden resignation. However since that time I received a telephone call with the same information I see that Wikipedia has published.

Regardless of the details of what happened this church family needs our prayers as well as the former pastor's family.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:26 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

Just received word that this is not a good situation.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:29 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

Holding that church, the pastor, and his family up in prayer. Indeed the church is under attack, it's hard to even consider being a pastor in these last days. Wow.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:30 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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You could only know that by being one. I have been many years. And it seems sometimes that the ones you help the most, hurt you the most. Have had some that I put many hours, and money out of my pocket, in to them and when they decide they want to leave just walk off without saying a word to you. A caring Pastor is hurt by those actions! I know!
No, brother, I've never been one nor has my husband. I do have close friends
and some family that are. I've seen them go through things as you've described. I don't understand how some people can mistreat the Man of God so flippantly. I respectfully fear the Lord and the office he has placed of Preacher. Woe be it unto those who do His servants harm.

God bless you Brother BT. I'm sure you have many in your congregation
now who are so very thankful for you!

I do pray for the Ministry every day.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:36 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

Some of this drives me batty.

Look folks, when a preacher falls morally -no matter the sin- it's not because the Devil made him do it. It's because he doesn't practice what he preaches.

Far too often we blame the Devil, or demons, or spiritual warfare.

The truth is ultraconservative flesh is no different from uberliberal flesh.

This is a huge hole in the ultracon armor. Ultracon Apo's believe their standards keep them from falling. But they don't.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:45 PM
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Some of this drives me batty.

Look folks, when a preacher falls morally -no matter the sin- it's not because the Devil made him do it. It's because he doesn't practice what he preaches.

Far too often we blame the Devil, or demons, or spiritual warfare.

The truth is ultraconservative flesh is no different from uberliberal flesh.

This is a huge hole in the ultracon armor. Ultracon Apo's believe their standards keep them from falling. But they don't.
Sadly what you say is true. I think everybody realizes that ultimately it is a human beings failure but you must acknowledge that ministers seem to be under particularly harsh spiritual attacks. I believe it is because the enemy of our souls knows what a negative impact a minister failing has. It ripples out to effect a lot more people than when a saint fails. It is not just "shooting two birds with one stone" but sometimes shooting scores or hundreds with one stone.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Wow! That update on wikipedia was wicked fast. Maybe a board member is a wikipedia contributor. When I started this thread I had absolutely no idea of why the sudden resignation. However since that time I received a telephone call with the same information I see that Wikipedia has published.

Regardless of the details of what happened this church family needs our prayers as well as the former pastor's family.
And.... Now it's gone.
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