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07-29-2012, 12:39 PM
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I think it was cray-cray, but obviously the bride and groom were down for it and ultimately they are the only ones who really matter in that scenario. As far as anything inciting it, I think the preacher/pastor was the main thing!
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07-29-2012, 04:30 PM
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Who said they were Pentecostal? I didn't watch all of it. The preacher could have said something and I didn't hear it...
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07-29-2012, 07:21 PM
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Re: I've been around a long time and never seen th
Study a bit about Pavlov's dog and you'll see what affect a wild drumbeat, a screaming cheerleader have on emotional pentecostals.
It appears to be a trained response. God has little to do with it.
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07-29-2012, 07:59 PM
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Re: I've been around a long time and never seen th
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Study a bit about Pavlov's dog and you'll see what affect a wild drumbeat, a screaming cheerleader have on emotional pentecostals.
It appears to be a trained response. God has little to do with it.
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I agree - sort of!
I disagree that we know with assurance that "God has little to do with it". God most always works within a flawed and compromised human framework. Far it be from me to say God is not doing great things in the lives of flamboyant Pentecostal worshipers, though I can and do say the same concerning more formal, stoic or even liturgical worshipers.
I agree that God deals with the heart - with the inner man. The added accessories are really not of great consequence either way.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-29-2012, 08:09 PM
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Re: I've been around a long time and never seen th
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What about the crazy drum beat that started and then the groom started "moving".... I think this is another example of how a drum beat, music, lights (referencing another recent post) are all part of the emotionalism and hype to get people to start moving, and then call it a "move of the Holy Ghost."
Personally, I saw nothing that resembled true worship, it seemed more of a movement to the beat of that drum....
Now if this had all happened without the drum beat, and with uplifted hands and faces, and tears streaming down faces... I would be more inclined to attribute this to a move of the Spirit.
Without being there personally, and knowing the situation, and the people involved, it is indeed hard to gauge such a thing from just a video... but the crazy drum beat and then the wild movement with that drum beat.... leads me to believe that this was movement in response to a drum beat.... just my take on the matter.
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and that's why years ago some OP's in Louisiana were referred to as "drum jumpers" because they jumped up and down, or danced to the beat of a drum.
Some were also called "goty" people because they would repeat "glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory" so long and so fast till it came out " goty, goty, goty, goty" and folks would call it speaking with tongues.
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07-29-2012, 10:08 PM
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A lot of the dancing that I have seen performed by black saints looks tribal. I'm not sure why the whites and messicans don't have that look.
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07-30-2012, 12:13 AM
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Re: I've been around a long time and never seen th
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A lot of the dancing that I have seen performed by black saints looks tribal. I'm not sure why the whites and messicans don't have that look.
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While it's true, I am not sure I have any particular problem with it. We should strive to celebrate our cultural differences.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-30-2012, 12:15 AM
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Re: I've been around a long time and never seen th
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and that's why years ago some OP's in Louisiana were referred to as "drum jumpers" because they jumped up and down, or danced to the beat of a drum.
Some were also called "goty" people because they would repeat "glory, glory, glory, glory, glory, glory" so long and so fast till it came out " goty, goty, goty, goty" and folks would call it speaking with tongues.
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Dancing and clapping to the beat of a drum is kewl... the goty stuff is just ignernt. 
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-30-2012, 01:13 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
While it's true, I am not sure I have any particular problem with it. We should strive to celebrate our cultural differences.
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My thought is that it crossed over from Africa. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. It's only an observation, a recent one. Not all appears to be tribal.
In The Winds of God the writer states that "dancing" was brought in by the African Americans.
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07-30-2012, 01:19 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Study a bit about Pavlov's dog and you'll see what affect a wild drumbeat, a screaming cheerleader have on emotional pentecostals.
It appears to be a trained response. God has little to do with it.
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I never understood why everyone broke into a frenzy after a line is repeated continuously. Conditioning?
And I found it odd that for some reason I felt the urge to speak in tongues while some of my senior class was on stage giving an emotional performance to a secular song.
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