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09-06-2007, 04:32 PM
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Know what I long for?!
Today I was thinking about the Will Love Prevail thread and got a longing for the days gone by...
Anyone ever get a hankering feeling...not indigestion,  but just a feeling deep within for how things used to be?!
I sure have...I am Apostolic Church born and bred, but have NEVER seen a day like today. Maybe I was never 'in the know' or lived in a cave,  but I don't recall seeing a time where brethren were at such odds over issues like they are in this day.
What happened to us?!
The United Pentecostal Church International was built on diversity...they banked EVERYTHING on not contending for their different views to the disunity of the Body.
What happened to us?!
How did we get to this place that 62 years after The Merger some on both sides of this are thinking of separating/breaking fellowship, and over what...the right to advertise?!
I do not understand...
I don't know about you, but my heart longs to bring back the day of walking together in unity, for the sake of unity.
I don't know...perhaps I am just whistling in the graveyard and no one is listening, but is it all worth heated words and bitter hearts?!
Those who leave...will they be better off for having done so?! I'm not saying there isn't life after the UPCI...heavens no, but I am asking if leaving under these conditions will benefit anyone...can they not find the common ground on which to build?!
I just don't know... 
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09-06-2007, 04:35 PM
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Believe God, there is nothing impossible for Him. Be encouraged that God is in control.
Don't listen to the negative voices. Prayer changes things.
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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09-06-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Believe God, there is nothing impossible for Him. Be encouraged that God is in control.
Don't listen to the negative voices. Prayer changes things.
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Miz, it's the voices on both sides...
I am prayerful...I have a brother who is a UPCI pastor, but this thing still gives me pause.
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09-06-2007, 04:45 PM
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My Daddy would say: "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians." Or maybe..."Big egos, small minds." Perhaps..."Lords over God's heritage?"
But then...my Daddy was never really in love with the organization...he loved God a whole lot though....
He preached about love a lot. I do remember some fellow ministers accusing him of being "soft." I think a lot of ministers could use some "softness", and I don't mean in the head.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-06-2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
Miz, it's the voices on both sides...
I am prayerful...I have a brother who is a UPCI pastor, but this thing still gives me pause.
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I know, but DB's post spoke of two different voices that spoke of toleration and love (via pm's). I think it is possible to have something unexpectedly good come out of Tampa, but not without prayer.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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09-06-2007, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
My Daddy would say: "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians." Or maybe..."Big egos, small minds." Perhaps..."Lords over God's heritage?"
But then...my Daddy was never really in love with the organization...he loved God a whole lot though....
He preached about love a lot. I do remember some fellow ministers accusing him of being "soft." I think a lot of ministers could use some "softness", and I don't mean in the head.
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Your daddy is a wise man.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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09-06-2007, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
My Daddy would say: "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians." Or maybe..."Big egos, small minds." Perhaps..."Lords over God's heritage?"
But then...my Daddy was never really in love with the organization...he loved God a whole lot though....
He preached about love a lot. I do remember some fellow ministers accusing him of being "soft." I think a lot of ministers could use some "softness", and I don't mean in the head.
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You seem to have a lot of your daddy in you, MissB...
Your posts almost always bring a smile...thank you, girl...
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09-06-2007, 04:51 PM
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Barb, be of good cheer and let it be known that nothing has really changed. Nothing except the advent of the information age the past 100 years. People always held thoughts but throughout history it was far easier to hold them to oneself then to voice them lest it turn out that your the only one who feels that way. The internet and mass media has left countless know that they are NOT the only ones with a particular viewpoint.
What information technology has done is help to wipe away the illusion that there ever WAS total unity.....
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09-06-2007, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I know, but DB's post spoke of two different voices that spoke of toleration and love (via pm's). I think it is possible to have something unexpectedly good come out of Tampa, but not without prayer. |
I am praying for that...
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09-06-2007, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
You seem to have a lot of your daddy in you, MissB...
Your posts almost always bring a smile...thank you, girl...
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Now you've really gone and done it...and made my day. *sniff*
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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