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Old 04-30-2007, 10:14 AM
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Is there some reason why we should care about this? Am I missing something?


why not skip the thread then? what's the point


the Question i asked is WHY didn't it work out to elminate them?
WHY are they going back ? maybe the share groups sounded good but not really practical
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:15 AM
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I don't believe that everyone is called to be elders (leaders), but they (everyone else) are called to use their talents in whatever capacity that God has given them, but this extends far beyond the current expression as we know it.

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If they are not going to do it in a local church what makes you think they are going to do it elsewhere??? If they are lazy IN the church they are going to be the same outside of the church .
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:21 AM
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I would never get rid of our Sunday night church. The AM & PM services are totally different the AM service is a teaching service and the PM is a jubilee service.
Why make a distinction between the two?? I think sometimes we (being very general here) have made it our own culture to be "less evangelistic" in the morning. Here in San Diego...we just have CHURCH!
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There were several different reasons for him doing this.... I now go regularly to both services. The Sunday PM service was not necessarily for the youth - it was just geared more "contemporary" and that appealed to the youth. Not necessarily to some of the rest of us. That was going on for about two maybe three years. I guess it depends upon someone's definition of "sluggish". Yeah, some of the people come in and sit back - but Pastor doesn't allow that for very long. Several of the PM services have turned into prayer meetings.
The church website always said differently. People who attended there called it the weekly youth service. Who ran that service?
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:23 AM
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If they are not going to do it in a local church what makes you think they are going to do it elsewhere??? If they are lazy IN the church they are going to be the same outside of the church .
You force them, though our church is smaller than most, we are starting by making each member meet with 1-2 other members to do 3 basic discipleship tasks.

1. Read scriptures together in community, 30-50 Chapters a week

2. Pray for lost souls, write down people in our sphere of influence that we can pray for.

3. Confession of sins/accountability to each other

You have to do this weekly for 1 hour each time. I know some won't do it, or cop out, but as a leader I will at least make an effort to disciple people.


The worse thing I can do is allow a person to believe that a series of services is what it means to be on the way, when actuality it is a way of life.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:24 AM
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We have only one service on Sunday...it's at 11am and I LOVE it...I hope they never change it!
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:35 AM
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why not skip the thread then? what's the point


the Question i asked is WHY didn't it work out to elminate them?
WHY are they going back ? maybe the share groups sounded good but not really practical

I'd rather whine.

I guess I thought I was missing something. So the whole point of the thread is to determine if one or two Sunday services is better?
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Why make a distinction between the two?? I think sometimes we (being very general here) have made it our own culture to be "less evangelistic" in the morning. Here in San Diego...we just have CHURCH!
I've wondered what "Evangelistic Service " means in the Apostolic Church.

You would think that it would be a "seeker sensitive" service. But usually it means "pedal to the metal", shockamo, shout beat, etc. service; especially if it's on Sunday Nite.

Now I know to some of you that is how you define a "seeker sensitive" service.
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Two Sunday Services is mostly traditional in a sense...
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:47 AM
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Two Sunday Services is mostly traditional in a sense...
so one service a week on sunday morning is enough ?
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