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09-08-2007, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
In other words, you won't answer. Oh, well, I tried.
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How is that any different KP from your answer ... He said the I Am ... you said he who is ...
If he wants he could answer you w/ your own words:
He who IS the Father IS God!
He who IS the Son IS God!
He who IS the Holy Spirit IS God!
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09-08-2007, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
In other words, you won't answer. Oh, well, I tried.
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I did answer...lol
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09-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
I'm doing too many things at one time. You can't believe how many times I went back and edited that post.
Let me try again,
He who IS the Son IS God!
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The Son is Jesus Christ.
Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
pretty clear who Jesus is.
Jesus never once claimed to be anyone other than the Son of God.
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09-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
How is that any different KP from your answer ... He said the I Am ... you said he who is ...
If he wants he could answer you w/ your own words:
He who IS the Father IS God!
He who IS the Son IS God!
He who IS the Holy Spirit IS God!
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I've got no problem with that. I believe that. I just don't believe there are three different people "WHO IS."
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 "Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and
any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." 
Winston Churchill
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09-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
Let me take this answer and see how you apply it to the scripture. If your definition of the identity of God is "I AM," then we should be able to substitute that in passages which mention "God" without problems.
Let's try John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with I AM and the Word was I AM."
Verse 14, "And the Word (I AM) was made flesh ..."
I've got no problem with that, but I have an idea that you might. |
Red alert ....
IF THE SON IS HE WHO IS ... OR THE IAM ....
AND THE I AM WAS IN THE BEGINNING
THEN THE SON IS ETERNAL?
Most OPs will not accept an eternal sonship.
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09-08-2007, 06:11 PM
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No joke you're really Trinity,well you are still my friend.
Prior to the incarnation if the Son is eternal then who was His mother ?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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09-08-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher
I've got no problem with that. I believe that. I just don't believe there are three different people "WHO IS."
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Ok.. do natures talk, pray, love each other?
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09-08-2007, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Red alert ....
IF THE SON IS HE WHO IS ... OR THE IAM ....
AND THE I AM WAS IN THE BEGINNING
THEN THE SON IS ETERNAL?
Most OPs will not accept an eternal sonship.
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He Who IS the Son IS eternal. The Son, however, is NOT. The Eternal One is Eternal. However, He BECAME the "begotten" (NOT "eternal") Son of God.
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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and
any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
Winston Churchill
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09-08-2007, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Red alert ....
IF THE SON IS HE WHO IS ... OR THE IAM ....
AND THE I AM WAS IN THE BEGINNING
THEN THE SON IS ETERNAL?
Most OPs will not accept an eternal sonship.
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Me included.But I say this in kindness.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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09-08-2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Believer
Ok.. do natures talk, pray, love each other?
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Do "coequal persons" pray to one another?
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"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and
any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
Winston Churchill
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