in difference to some folk around here, I will keep my mouth shut. But ive been on the internet with this group since FCF. It has certainly been disheartening to watch some folk "evolve"
This is it in a nutshell
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying what is
Wow Mike, you are just so subtle in your insults.
sorry the truth makes you so angry - People like usually attack
the person who conveys the message rather then the real issue
at hand
i must be readingt a different post than you st mark, i dont see the insult, lol
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A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
I think it's time to come clean about this issue. I know a lot of
you are going to find what I have to say unbelievable
perhaps my bluntness makes it hard to swallow, but I am dead serious about this.
Here are the real reasons why many Cons have left, formed
other groups and rarely come around anymore. Now, please
don't attack me. I'm just telling WHY. I just want your comments
and hopefully some good honest interaction
It's partly because of a few certain posters. that is true. But it goes
way beyond posters being disrespectful.Their is a common held belief that this forum
is swaying a lot of vunerable people (traditional Pentecostals) to question and give up their
convictions and cause them to backslide from the truth. It is believed that this forum or many members here
are out to sway others out of the standards and that it is working.
It is grieving a lot of people and they can't bear to see what has happend.
some would go as far as to say that AFF has an agenda. Others
would say that Certain individuals have an agenda. I'm not sure
this is the case BUT I am telling you that this IS indeed what
is thought by many and I wont take that back.
Even though we all got along on FCF, many are seeing the results
of what a forum can do over the years in changing peoples' long held beliefs
and it's troublesome to a lot of the ministry.
Now, you can brush this off and try to forget about it, that's fine.
but at least you know the real truth now unless you choose to live
in denial. I don't expect a lot of people to come clean about this
and some wont want to believe it's true, but sorry, it is nonetheless
true.
For a while I was puzzled as to why there was a mass exodus
and sought out to find out why. I was a little apprehensive about
posting this But I feel it's time to come clean about this so that
everyone knows the real deal
Sorry, but if what you are saying is true, then the logic behind it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. They're worried about people's minds being changed because of what they read here, so they leave and go elsewhere, thereby leaving no opposing viewpoints to the ones they find so dangerous? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. NOT!
DeltaGuitar would say that many people are being swayed, with himself included in that number.
Did forums sway you, Michael?
No, forums didn't sway me, although many people wish they could blame it on that.
It's hard for some of my family to beleive that I changed my beliefs on my own with no influence from others.
Imagine that, I can think for myself!
But, seriously, this forum is nothing more than a tool, and if people are questioning things, they don't need a forum to change their minds - there are plenty of other opportunities.
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Mike, If you are trying to get me to lay all my evidence on the
table, forget it. If that's the only way you'll believe me, then you
can choose not to. but do you really think people left simply
because of one or two members ??? think about it
i belive you at least in part.
there is another story too. but what you have said surely represents a pretty solid resoning on why many left.
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in difference to some folk around here, I will keep my mouth shut. But ive been on the internet with this group since FCF. It has certainly been disheartening to watch some folk "evolve"
One person's evolving is another person's enlightenment!
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Mike, If you are trying to get me to lay all my evidence on the
table, forget it. If that's the only way you'll believe me, then you
can choose not to. but do you really think people left simply
because of one or two members ??? think about it
Mark, I'm not arguing your statement one way or another, but I'd really like to know if this is a general consensus among the disgruntled Cons or if this was just one or two of them sharing their thoughts.
And, I'd have to agree with others, I think the reasons many of them left are TOTALLY different than what some may be indicating.
Just my opinion tho, I have no backing for this other than my own gut feeling.
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Pastor Poster has posted on this many times and it is true. Dan A and a few others have an agenda. There's no doubt in my mind from stuff I've read here and on SynaD but AFF does not have that agenda.
There can be no doubt that DA has an agenda. Abandoning the forum because of it makes no sense. You don't turn and run in the face of opposition. You stay and fight for what you believe is right.