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Old 08-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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This stupid TV crud dont' mean jack to the average ordinary individual. Nobody gives a hoot about it except for the political-minded goobers.


TIC...Sarcastic....or....Truth ????? hehehe
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:15 PM
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I won't comment on a particular resolution coming up at a conference... simply because I have not been UPC for many a moon, but I will just add that I do think about this debate when I see a few of the people in our church who are sitting there as a result of seeing our Public Access program. Hardly ANYONE watches anything on cable public access regardless of the program, but occasionally the right people flips to it at the right time in their lives.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:30 PM
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OH, God purge me of self...purge me of Janice and fill me running over with your Holy Spirit. Fill me with your love set my eyes upon you and let me see the world as you see the world.
I pray for Kansas Preacher and all those who will write on this thread. May we be consumed with love only for you O Lord. Love for your word, keeping your commandments and statues. Let them be not only bound around our necks but may they be burned into our hearts.
Cleanse us from the world and all the entanglements of the world.
HELP US to love dear God what you love and hate what you hate.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:34 PM
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and one to one must work in our day the Jehovah´s Wittnesses and Mormons seem to think so and they have television in their homes.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:55 PM
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Far be it from me to be a weakening factor in the strength of this movement. By helping to pass this resolution, I will be able to walk away with my head held high, knowing I am making the UPCI better by my absence.
You are planning to leave if the resolution is passed? Or was that for dramatic effect?

If it doesn't pass are you wanting those that supported it to walk away?
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:57 PM
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TIC...Sarcastic....or....Truth ????? hehehe
Truth.
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:59 PM
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Hey, it was all in fun.

Wordnet defines "tongue-in-cheeK" as "cleverly amusing in tone."

The American Heritage dictionary defines it as "ironically or facetiously."

"Facetious" is defined as "1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally; 2. amusing; humorous."

Believe it or not, there was nothing hateful intended by my post.
lol...well Im sure someone thought it was amusing...if not all that clever
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Old 08-26-2007, 03:00 PM
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KP, nice satirical thread!

Keep in mind that there is nothing in the resolution REQUIRING any church to quit buying the door hangers and tracts to hand out to the masses!

Hey...this was effective in the 50's and 60's, so I don't see why it wouldn't be effective today!

Nobody is required to use billboards, newspaper, radio, magazines, internet or TV to advertise because we all know that these forms of advertisement also have beer and/or cigarette ads also! Some may not want to be associated with the world in any way!

Door hangers and tracts RULE!!!!!!!!
And infact nobody with half a brain has suggested this is the end all approach to outreach. It's really just another cog in the machine.
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I have acccess to free advertising with our local community access station. I used them to promote our children's crusade. They aired our commercial at least six times a day. They gave me unlimited time for the commercial. A week later I hit the streets. I mentioned the ad and people said they seen it. We had over 100 first time guests that Saturday and Sunday. So far 3 people got the Holy Ghost a mom, a teenager, and a boy... All in the same family. Point being. Tv advertising can be effective and adds credibility to your one on one witness. When they see you on tv and meet you in person and you are just as real to them in person as you are on tv, they are going to want what you have.

Even though it was said that people will stop face to face evangelism if television, not one shred of evidence will support that claim. The West Coast Prophet and the Indiana/Illinois Apostle can stop spreading that rhetoric.

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I won't comment on a particular resolution coming up at a conference... simply because I have not been UPC for many a moon, but I will just add that I do think about this debate when I see a few of the people in our church who are sitting there as a result of seeing our Public Access program. Hardly ANYONE watches anything on cable public access regardless of the program, but occasionally the right people flips to it at the right time in their lives.
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:28 PM
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I have acccess to free advertising with our local community access station. I used them to promote our children's crusade. They aired our commercial at least six times a day. They gave me unlimited time for the commercial. A week later I hit the streets. I mentioned the ad and people said they seen it. We had over 100 first time guests that Saturday and Sunday. So far 3 people got the Holy Ghost a mom, a teenager, and a boy... All in the same family. Point being. Tv advertising can be effective and adds credibility to your one on one witness. When they see you on tv and meet you in person and you are just as real to them in person as you are on tv, they are going to want what you have.

Even though it was said that people will stop face to face evangelism if television, not one shred of evidence will support that claim. The West Coast Prophet and the Indiana/Illinois Apostle can stop spreading that rhetoric.
I've changed my mind.

I am now ALL FOR UPC TV!!!



This way we will have the phonies, philanderers, moneygrubbers and egocentrists leaping to the forefront voluntarily to identify themselves, instead of having to deal with uncertainty and waiting.

True Christians don't belong on TV, nor do they belong in front of it, beside of it, under it, or behind it. If people without the HG can figure out its corrupting influence, why can't we?
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