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Old 01-04-2008, 06:50 PM
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So you feel like you are qualified to judge something that you have not even seen in it's entirety? Whatever...
So you feel like you are qualified to judge my opinion when you have not even met me or know who I am? Whatever...
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:42 PM
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Or maybe they are disheartened at how far the Apostolic church has drifted from Jesus' message of taking up your cross, to one of a "seeker friendly," entertainment oriented, bubblegum version of "the gospel." No I didn't watch the whole thing because I couldn't stand the first 7 minutes. It was carnal, fleshly, and meaningless.
It was just a Christmas play.....
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:42 PM
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Or maybe they are disheartened at how far the Apostolic church has drifted from Jesus' message of taking up your cross, to one of a "seeker friendly," entertainment oriented, bubblegum version of "the gospel." No I didn't watch the whole thing because I couldn't stand the first 7 minutes. It was carnal, fleshly, and meaningless.
Wow! That's a very Christ-like aproach!
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:32 PM
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What A Great Church!!! We Are So Privileged To Have Poa In Our Fellowship....thank God For The Maguns, Shocks, Rutledges, & Howards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:34 PM
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I guess some folks aren't comfortable with a Christmas program if it goes beyond the army blanket strung up sloppily over a rope for a curtain, a plastic dime-store baby-doll with one eye poked out for the baby Jesus, an out-of-tune upright piano, and about 25 people there to see it.
TL, your the best!!!! Sadly, I have seen too many of those productions, thank GOD for POA!!!
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:47 PM
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Was it a different program...YES.

However, it was presented in a more modern way...and did not deviate from the message. Maybe seeing something in it's entirety before judging something and calling it "carnal, fleshly, meaningless" as JAS has done.

Was it particularly my style...not necessarily. However, it does not deny that the gospel was presented...with a short "sermon" and prayer by Anthony Mangun at the end.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:51 PM
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POA has always gotten a lot of criticism...HOWEVER, when you have the largest church in the UPCI (and it's not large when you compare it to the large charasmatic churches) you really don't care about what the little churches that have ran 50 for 50 years think because you are reaching the masses for Jesus. Just my .02.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:59 PM
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No where does the Bible say to "reach the masses for Jesus," it says to "go and make disciples." A disciple is one who is like Jesus. You can have all the entertainment/followed by sermon and short prayer productions you want and still not done what the Body of Christ is supposed to do. Also, it is not a matter of what the "little" churches think, it is a matter of measuring ourselves by what the Bible teaches that counts. The Bible says that to compare ourselves by what others do is "foolish." In the New Testament, a foolish person is in danger of being dammed for his stupidity.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:04 PM
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I recall Jesus reaching masses of people, feeding 5,000.
How many people were in the upper room?

Yes, just reach your 50 and be content. That is the best plan!
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:14 PM
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I recall Jesus reaching masses of people, feeding 5,000.
How many people were in the upper room?

Yes, just reach your 50 and be content. That is the best plan!
Yes he did and that is exactly what theatrical performances will produce, "loaves and fishes Christians." As soon as it's not fun and games anymore they will leave (John 6:66). Remember that out of the thousands that Jesus fed he only chose 12 to be disciples.
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